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	<title>Comments on: Russian Lessons Part I: Learn To Say Ovechkin Correctly</title>
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	<description>A pretty rowdy hockey blog all about the Washington Capitals and some Russian dudes: Alex Ovechkin, Alex Semin, and Dmitry Orlov</description>
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		<title>By: v m</title>
		<link>http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2010/02/08/russian-lessons-part-i-learn-to-say-ovechkin-correctly/#comment-24291</link>
		<dc:creator>v m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 20:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>learn to spell Aleksandr properly first.

and the amount of russians who get the nickname Alex instead of Sacha is probably less than 0.1%.

it just sounds fake reading it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>learn to spell Aleksandr properly first.</p>
<p>and the amount of russians who get the nickname Alex instead of Sacha is probably less than 0.1%.</p>
<p>it just sounds fake reading it.<br />
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		<title>By: Russian Lessons Part II: Learn How to Support The Russian National Team in Vancouver</title>
		<link>http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2010/02/08/russian-lessons-part-i-learn-to-say-ovechkin-correctly/#comment-681</link>
		<dc:creator>Russian Lessons Part II: Learn How to Support The Russian National Team in Vancouver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 03:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] RMNB taught you how to correctly pronounce the names of some of Team Russia&#8217;s Best Hockey Play.... After the significant attention our post received, we figured our readers desired to learn more. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] RMNB taught you how to correctly pronounce the names of some of Team Russia&#8217;s Best Hockey Play&#8230;. After the significant attention our post received, we figured our readers desired to learn more. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 21:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t apologize.  We appreciate your input, Seven.


*rimshot*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t apologize.  We appreciate your input, Seven.</p>
<p>*rimshot*</p>
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		<title>By: Sven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Englishspeakers never really care how non-English names really are pronounced. They just read the names the way they seem in English and don&#039;t bother to try doing it correctly. (Sorry for the generalization, I do know there are a few that try.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Englishspeakers never really care how non-English names really are pronounced. They just read the names the way they seem in English and don&#8217;t bother to try doing it correctly. (Sorry for the generalization, I do know there are a few that try.)</p>
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		<title>By: Cookie Monster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cookie Monster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>breaklance:

I think the only thing Canadians can claim is that they are more familiar with French than Americans are.  The sheer volume of immigration to the U.S. over centuries has arguably made Americans more familiar with more languages than Canadians.  We just have a history of appropriating, assimulating, or ignoring our multi-lingual bounty.

Barbara:

Most modern English speakers wouldn&#039;t be familiar with Anglo-Saxon names.  Those would get mangled too.


In general, I think we do fairly well pronouncing Russian names especially if we&#039;ve heard them pronounced properly.  The most frequent errors are where to put the emphasis and that pesky &quot;yo&quot; sound that is foreign to our tongue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>breaklance:</p>
<p>I think the only thing Canadians can claim is that they are more familiar with French than Americans are.  The sheer volume of immigration to the U.S. over centuries has arguably made Americans more familiar with more languages than Canadians.  We just have a history of appropriating, assimulating, or ignoring our multi-lingual bounty.</p>
<p>Barbara:</p>
<p>Most modern English speakers wouldn&#8217;t be familiar with Anglo-Saxon names.  Those would get mangled too.</p>
<p>In general, I think we do fairly well pronouncing Russian names especially if we&#8217;ve heard them pronounced properly.  The most frequent errors are where to put the emphasis and that pesky &#8220;yo&#8221; sound that is foreign to our tongue.</p>
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		<title>By: The Peerless</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Peerless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somehow, I can&#039;t wrap my mind around Wes Johnson going, &quot;Capitals goal scored by...number 8...Alex AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH-VYECHKIN!!!

Even though it does have a nice sound to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow, I can&#8217;t wrap my mind around Wes Johnson going, &#8220;Capitals goal scored by&#8230;number 8&#8230;Alex AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH-VYECHKIN!!!</p>
<p>Even though it does have a nice sound to it.</p>
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		<title>By: breaklance</title>
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		<dc:creator>breaklance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting but not entirely new to me atleast. Americans specifically are terrible with &quot;foreign&quot; names. Canadians less so, and to make a generalization, because many are bilingual have a broader sense of pronunciation. 

Russian, Arabic, and asian languages seem to have the biggest trouble for Americans. Honestly I think its because of a) how different the languages are(i know hard right!?) and also difference of Alphabet. Translating names specifically seems to cause &quot;americanization&quot; 

Try spelling the pronounciations phonetically: Alecsandre Syomen. Alex Ahvichkin. 

Well, that&#039;s how I&#039;d spell it based on the sound. Not hugely hard to see the jump from Ahvichkin to Ovechkin. Some of it I see as shortcut, other advertising. Harder the name is to say the harder it is to market the person. Look at mainstream media, tv, music. Guys like John Mellencamp become Johnny Cougar. Niclas Copala become Nick Cage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting but not entirely new to me atleast. Americans specifically are terrible with &#8220;foreign&#8221; names. Canadians less so, and to make a generalization, because many are bilingual have a broader sense of pronunciation. </p>
<p>Russian, Arabic, and asian languages seem to have the biggest trouble for Americans. Honestly I think its because of a) how different the languages are(i know hard right!?) and also difference of Alphabet. Translating names specifically seems to cause &#8220;americanization&#8221; </p>
<p>Try spelling the pronounciations phonetically: Alecsandre Syomen. Alex Ahvichkin. </p>
<p>Well, that&#8217;s how I&#8217;d spell it based on the sound. Not hugely hard to see the jump from Ahvichkin to Ovechkin. Some of it I see as shortcut, other advertising. Harder the name is to say the harder it is to market the person. Look at mainstream media, tv, music. Guys like John Mellencamp become Johnny Cougar. Niclas Copala become Nick Cage.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t feel bad. Americans butcher any name out of the ordinary Anglo-Saxon. And sometimes we even butcher those.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t feel bad. Americans butcher any name out of the ordinary Anglo-Saxon. And sometimes we even butcher those.</p>
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		<title>By: FedFed</title>
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		<dc:creator>FedFed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I can imagine that some American names would go through the same trouble in Russia&quot;
Fans usually scarify journalists when they&#039;re speaking wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I can imagine that some American names would go through the same trouble in Russia&#8221;<br />
Fans usually scarify journalists when they&#8217;re speaking wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to know that after mangling all the others I at least nailed the Crosby pronunciation - thanks, Ashley!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to know that after mangling all the others I at least nailed the Crosby pronunciation &#8211; thanks, Ashley!</p>
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