CSKA Acquires KHL Rights to Dmitry Orlov

Dmitry Orlov during his stint with Metallurg Novokuznetsk in 2009-10 season. (Photo credit: Metallurg Novokuznetsk)

CSKA Moscow, managed by former Washington Capitals forward Sergei Fedorov, has acquired the KHL rights to prospects Dmitry Orlov (of the Washington Capitals) and Ivan Telegin (of the Winnipeg Jets) from Metallurg Novokuznetsk in exchange for financial compensation. Both Telegin and Orlov are hometown kids and alumni of Metallurg. After playing in the same system for many years, they know each other very well; they’re even friends.

Orlov, 22, was assigned to the American Hockey League’s Hershey Bears to start the year after being unable to make the Caps roster out of camp. He’s in a tight competition for spots with many other young defensemen in the organization like Nate Schmidt and Tomas Kundratek. He played 60 games for Washington in the 2011-12 season before two concussions sidelined him and lost him his spot in the NHL. With Jack Hillen out four-to-six months, now may be the time for Orlov to step up and take back his position in the NHL before it’s too late.

Just a month ago, in an interview with Slava Malamud of Sport-Express, Orlov dismissed talk of returning to Russia. “I don’t think about it,” he said. “I’m still a young player and want to start playing here. I haven’t proven anything to myself or anybody else. Playing in 60 NHL games and going back is not the way to do it!”

Telegin, 21, is a big center with some skill. Just like Orlov, he has had some head injuries in the past and failed to make the Jets out of camp this year. The Jets seem to be content with their centermen, Bryan Little, Mark Scheifele, Olli Jokinen, and Jim Slater. Unlike Orlov, Telegin refused to report to his team’s AHL affiliate, the St. John’s IceCaps, kicking off rumours about his potential return to Russia. However, with two years left on his NHL entry-level contract and NHL/KHL agreement, that move doesn’t appear likely, unless the Jets assign him to Russia on loan.

CSKA is a historical powerhouse in Russian hockey. Unlike Metallurg Novokuznetsk, they’re backed by the rich Rosneft oil company and are one of the highest-spending teams in the KHL.

The acquisition of rights doesn’t necessarily mean a player will come back to the KHL. For example, Lev Prague acquired the rights for Roman Cervenka from Avangard Omsk. When talks fell through, Prague had to trade them again to SKA St. Petersburg, who then signed Cervenka to a contract. On the other hand, when a rich team like CSKA or SKA acquire rights, that usually means they’re serious about signing and don’t want that player on another club.

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  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    I’m not keen on Orlov.

    In 11-12 out of 170 d-men (based on ice time), he ranked 128th in shot attempts (http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/ratings.php?disp=1&db=201112&sit=5v5&pos=defense&minutes=750&teamid=0&type=individual&sort=ifenwick60&sortdir=DESC) despite playing CUSHY minutes.

    There’s no evidence for us to think he’d become the Mike Green-type player we were told he’d be.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com Ian Oland

    1) I downvoted you because a) we love Russians here b) your link doesn’t go to anything c) he was good that year (though he did make some rookie mistakes towards the end when Hunter benched him). Also, it’s good coaching if a rookie defenseman who is prone to taking chances on offense is sheltered. We should expect nothing less.

    2) That isn’t to say that I thought Orlov outplayed Carrick or several other players during the preseason or was very good last year after his injuries. He’s like Stella, he needs to go get his groove back. But judging by pure talent alone, the Caps need to give him another chance at some point this year to see if he is a solution. After Green, Alzner, and Carlson there is huge room for improvement.

    In closing, he may never be Mike Green, but he can still be an effective player at the NHL level. But he hasn’t been given much of a chance since Dale made him sit in the press box and wear suits in the playoffs.

  • Fedor

    And d), anyone who expected Orlov to be even distantly close to Mike Green was… well, outlandish. I always expected him to be a fringe top-4 d-man.

    Orlov isn’t bad. Inflated expectations are. And that’s the problem with many Caps fans on many topics.

    Remember this comment when Kuznetsov will come over but won’t be a perennial all-star.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    Fixed link. DISQUS doesn’t like parens.

    I don’t think Orlov was good that year– in comparison to his expectations at least. He was definitely sheltered, which means his coaches felt he was a liability. That he did *okay* in those circumstances doesn’t say much for his talent.

    Everything is just aspirational. I wish he were an NHL player too, but it doesn’t seem plausible.

  • Dark Stranger

    Ian, I agree more with you than with Peter. I figure he (Dima) has to be an improvement over Oisk plus he has the advantage of youth as well. Even Hunter had put him ahead of Oisk on the depth chart.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    “Orlov, a defenseman who loves jumping up on the rush like Mike Green” – Ian

    “absolute sick, Mike Green-eque goal” -You

    ““He’s a fun player, a lot like John Carlson or Mike Green” – Joe Finley

  • Daniel Walker

    It’s unfair to compare Dima to Greenie. Id say he is more of a Lou Franceschetti Mike Liut hybrid.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    I didn’t say Orlov is not an improvement over Erskine. I think he is an improvement over Erskine.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com Ian Oland

    How can he be a bust though if you think he’s a better defenseman than a guy who was in the top 20 (and led Caps dmen) in SV% last year? Sure, it’s slightly more than a half a year of games, but Erskine was very good last year (until the playoffs).

    http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/ratings.php?disp=1&db=201213&sit=5v5&pos=defense&minutes=300&teamid=0&type=corsi&sort=ShPctA&sortdir=ASC

    Also this: “I wish he were an NHL player too, but it doesn’t seem plausible.”

    I think it’s ludicrous to give up on a defenseman based on their play at the age of 20. The fact that he’s getting NHL time at 20 says more than any of his stats. But that’s just my opinion.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    I didn’t say he’d be a bust. Where are you getting this stuff?

    You and DarkStranger seem to have projected opinions on me that I haven’t stated.

    Here’s the full extent of what I said:

    a) He didn’t shoot much.

    b) He doesn’t seem to be similar to Mike Green.

    c) I’m not enthusiastic about him.

    Also, I have no clue what save percentage has to do with anything. That’s not a measure of defensive talent.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com Ian Oland

    Then why is Steve Eminger leading in it? Oh wait.

  • bskillet

    He will or would be a good defensemen but is also easily replaced, not a huge deal.

  • yv

    How about this news from CSKA. After watching his team free falling in standings, 43-yr old general manager Sergey Fedorov would be in CSKA roster on ice against Metallurg Magnitogorsk Oct 11th, probably to find out first hand what’s wrong with the team and maybe decide the fate of american coach Torchetti. I wonder how often coach has his general manager in his roster?!
    In another news, it seems Kuzya is cleared and would play in Traktor’s next home game after the end of current away tour.

  • Freedoooom

    Nope. Orlov deserves a organisation that appreciates him.

    So does Nate Schmidt, Caps deserve to lose both of them.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    Whatever. At least I drove up the comment count on this post. All I had to do was get FOUR DOWNVOTES on a totally fair comment.

  • Fedor

    “I don’t think Orlov was good that year– in comparison to his expectations at least.”

    Maybe we need to manage expectations before we blame the player? The fact that he scoreda goal like Mike Green or has some trait similar to Mike Green doesn’t put him close to Mike Green. Erskine hits like Lucic, but that’s pretty much as far as their similarities go.

    If you expect too much from a player, don’t be frustrated than he doesn’t live up to those expectations.

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