This is Not My Beautiful House: Flyers beat Caps 6-4

Vinny - Matt Slocum

Photo: Matt Slocum

This is the “game” recap. I’m putting game in scare quotes, because I don’t know what the cram happened during this Philadelphia Flyers-Washington Capitals …event. The Caps looked like a clown trying to fight off a direwolf with a whiffle bat for the first 45 minutes. And then– and I have no idea how they did it– they started stabbing their way back. 

Here’s the part where I summarize the scoring. I don’t wanna do it. It’s like that episode where Josh Lyman is talking to Adam Arkin and he can’t differentiate music from gunshots. Okay, here goes (deep breath.)

Claude Giroux feasted on a puck stolen from Hillen for number one. Jakub Voracek snuck one through traffic. Claude got another, and then Adam Hall. Forgive me for not remembering how: rage blackouts. Joel Ward got the Caps on the board, followed by an Ovi goal from the Ovi spot and a dart from Troy Brouwer. All of a sudden, the blowout was a one-goal game.

But then Voracek got away from the Caps defense — namely Mike Green Eric Fehr– by using the rarely seen technique of skating. 5-3. Brooks Laich tapped a Mike Green shot to make it 5-4, but then Steve Downie got the empty-netter.

Flyers beat Caps 6-4.

  • The Caps got outshot 20 to 10 (attempts) in the first period and only three of the Caps’ shots were on target. Don’t worry. That’s all according to George McPhee’s plan. Yeah. Moreon that later.
  • Connor Carrick looks imperiled every time he’s on the ice. The image of him struggling to corral a loose puck behind the Caps net probably looks a lot like the ultrasound of the stomach ulcer I got from the 2013-14 Caps.
  • Jack Hillen didn’t exactly shine in his first game back since his tibia went went crunch in the season’s first week. “Hilly” (as I’m sure he’s called) decisively lost a board battle leading to Philly’s first goal. It wasn’t even close.
  • That big-ass line brawl cost the Caps the services of John Erskine, which is supposed to be punishment but I dunno.
  • However bad you think Wayne Simmonds is for jumping Erskine during that fight, the people leaving vile comments on our Facebook page are worse. You disappoint me more than anything our preferred hockey team does. [I had this whole thing where I dox one of those creeps, but I changed my mind. Just don’t be awful please.]
  • Brooks Laich‘s health worries the hell out of me. He had a maintenance day yesterday, but he felt good enough to play tonight. He led the team in shots and tipped in Greeny’s shot in the third period. Nice! Moar!
  • I’d write more bullets, but I don’t want the Caps’ shot total to feel intimidated.
Georgia sleeping on a pile of laundry of the night

Georgia sleeping on a pile of laundry of the night

My favorite t-shirt is from the TV show Friday Night Lights. It’s really soft and it says East Dillon Lions: Never Out of the Fight. As a motto, I like that a lot more than Sink to the Level of Your Enemy.

The Caps shouldn’t do that. They’re not even good at it. You don’t out-Bruins the Bruins and you don’t out-Flyers the Flyers. The best way to defeat a shit-heel is not to become a shit-heel yourself. The frankly ludicrous assertion that fighting “protects” players boggles my mind, and getting in scrums with punks after every whistle should be part of your gameplan only if it’s not explicitly part of your opponent’s gameplan.

The Bs and the Flyers get power plays or neutralize their own penalties by suckering the Caps into retaliatory nonsense. And it always works. It’s the “neener neener” of hockey, and I hoped grown-ups would know better.

Whatever. I’m a crank tonight. The Caps played bad and then people started dropping hatey words on our bloggy space, and my dog smells awful.

Shake it off. Try again tomorrow.

 

Silver lining from the B-Rangers. Thanks, guys.

  • Jack Conness

    Ughhhh #BringBackMarty

  • MuzzMuzzington

    GMGM was right. We will get 10 more points in the standings this season because goaltending is our perceived problem.

  • Lance

    It would be nice if the Capitals can play more than one period.

  • Rob W.

    Somewhat resectable comeback but calling any single player out would be wrong for this loss. Its just so f’ing frustrating that these guys don’t start games with intensity and effort like the Flyers did tonight. Does some of the blame go the coaches?(who im quickly losing faith in). Its getting old seeing this team dig themselves into a hole

  • Jimmie

    These guys break my heart.

  • Owen Johnson

    They didn’t look like an NHL team until we pulled the goalie to wake them up. Good luck with all that Jaro.
    If this were earlier in the season, I would be okay with this because they fought back from long odds to make it interesting. But these 2 points were HUGE and they couldn’t afford to lay an egg the first 45 minutes.

  • Scott

    I love the Caps, but that game made me physically sick to watch, right from the puck drop. First the Olympics, and now this. Methinks I need a break from hockey.

  • MuzzMuzzington

    Played the fist and second period on Sunday. Played the third period tonight. Hey, we played a full game… Between two games…

  • Heidi

    Dear GMGM,

    Can you look me in the eye and tell me that you’re happy now?
    Love, Michelle Branch

  • OVECHKING

    Going into the third period, the Flyers were operating at 80% on faceoffs in the offensive zone . They won 8 out of 10 draws in the caps side of the ice. That’s absolutely pathetic.

  • Dave

    Repeat after me: The low Caps goalie save percentage when Mike Green is on the ice is because Mike Green (and sometimes Orlov) makes horrible gaffs in his own end.

    Not all shot attempts are created equal.

  • Jack Conness

    I can’t recall a game where the Caps put together an awesome 60 minutes. They always seem to have an awesome period or two, but they always have a sore spot during the game. They can’t play a full 60. I think that is their biggest problem.

  • Chris Cerullo

    Lol at this defense. It’s literally getting to the point where I think Mcphee is literally delusional about the blueline.

  • Marky Narc

    It’s pathetic that the only reason Connor Carrick is playing instead of Nate Schmidt is because Schmidt shoots from the “wrong” side.

    Seriously. Adam Oates is a horrible coach. Ovi goal output notwithstanding, he has transformed this team into world class underachievers.

  • Jack Conness

    You are totally right. I was paying attention to face-offs during the game since you brought it up last game. It is pathetic. They never win an important draw, or any draw for that matter. It is killing them.

  • Dave

    …and spelling “gaffe” as “gaff” was a gaffe… Damnit.

  • Christoffer Salo Salomonsson

    can someone please wxplain to me why Wilson got 10 minutes miscounduct and a 2 minute instigator?

  • jennrubenstein

    “But then Voracek got away from the Caps defense — namely Mike Green– by using the rarely seen technique of skating.”

    this is why rmnb is the best, and why i will always click on the recap no matter how awful the, uh, “game.” the laughs i needed and i thank you for them.

  • RY

    “Moreon that later.”
    Don’t you mean “Moron that later?”

  • Patrick Neimeyer

    So I guess George Mcphee missed the memo about trading for a solid blue-liner..ughhhh oh well at least we will have the Halak experiment beginning shortly. that should be a dousie :)

  • OVECHKING

    Oates has little to do with Ovechkin’s “resurgence”. This is a fact. Ovechkin has scored more goals at even strength from the left side of the ice than the right side. Oates has done nothing sizable to ovechkin’s game. Ovechkin and his line are still very one dimensional at even strength if not completely irrelevant. They don’t get anything going and this has been the case since oates has taken over

    If someone can point to specifics as to what exactly oates has done with ovechkin to make him a better player please enlighten me. .

  • David “Burn One” Byrne

    MY GOD! WHAT HAVE I DONE?!?!

  • Marky Narc

    Because the more the league expands, the more officials are needed to staff the games. Quality of officiating inevitably declines.

    Sorry, I don’t mean to snark you. But really, every game seems to have to random inexplicable call or non-call.

  • CapsKel

    Stupidity. We all know the Flyers are thugs, but he really lost the plot.

  • Dominic

    Loved this recap. Love it

  • Graham Dumas

    That’s not fair, they can string together more than one good period. It’s just it takes them a few games to do it….

  • Sean

    #FireMcphee Get it trending people!

  • OVECHKING

    Hey that’s not important. Whats important is their CORSI!! Green is really a very good defenceman because when he is on the ice (most of the time with Ovi’s line) the team gets more shots on goal then allows. Therefore he is a very good dmen and drive possession. He is just a victim of bad luck and bad goaltending. /sarcasm

  • Marky Narc

    Yeah, and I don’t really want to give him too much credit. Resurgence of Ovi and the generally improved PP are highly correlated with each other. Not to mention MJ90’s lack of EV production despite all the ice time he gets with 8/19.

  • OVECHKING

    This is a fundamental aspect of the game and the caps fail miserably at it. Caps lack fundamentals in a lot of areas of the game. Especially structured breakouts in the defensive zone.

  • Marky Narc

    Blah. So frustrated all around, I can’t even be coherent.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    If I did, I wouldn’t say so in the comments.

  • CapsKel

    I don’t see how it was the ref’s fault. Not throwing Simmonds out was the ref’s fault. Going after a tangled up Schenn was Wilson’s stupid fault.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    Thanks! Tough to write, and it’ probably won’t be read by a lot of people, so that means a lot to me.

  • Barrett

    that was actually ERIC FEHR…..the guy Voracek originally stole the puck from in the neutral zone.

  • OVECHKING

    To add, generational talents should not get half their production on the powerplay and not generate any chances at even strength. Does ovechkin or his linemates even generate more than 2-3 Grade A scoring chances any more?> When was the last time that’s happened? 05-10 Ovechkin and whoever he played with would get 5-10 scoring chances a game.

    Even under hunter hockey Ovechkin was a more effective player at even strength.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    I think there’s merit to your point

    And toxic waste in how you make it.

  • Langway

    Crappitty Crap Crap! So, if the Caps score 4 or more points and lose do I have to pay double for my Papa John’s pizza tomorrow?”

  • MuzzMuzzington

    They gave a game misconduct to Vinny, but not to Simmonds who was the third man in… Twice.

  • Barrett

    That 5th goal was on Eric Fehr, not Mike Green. Stop hatin’ on Green,

  • CapsKel

    It’s a good recap!

  • Myan

    I don’t trust Adam Oates & the coaching staff and I think that the team’s play reflects this. If we’re perplexed by why there’s a new guy in the locker room every 4 games, imagine how the players feel. It just seems to me like nobody is really buying into whatever the coaches are selling.

  • Matthew McGinnity

    Jesus. Yes its a bad result. Yes its because we had a slow start and got suckered into the neanderthal hockey that the Flyers play. However, at least let the players that we brought in have a chance to settle in before we call for GMGM’s head. In a few weeks if Kuzy comes and still needs work and Penner isnt fitting and Halak doesn’t seem to bring anything to the team. Then I will understand the complaints and will probably voice some of my own. But, lets at least give these guys a chance to make a different.

    We lost to a team that is on a hot streak right now and it was a home and home. We probably let the emotions from blowing last game flow into this one and it cost us.
    Lets exercise a little patience and see how this team adapts to the changes first.

  • Owen Johnson

    My brother and I have started calling blind passes to no one in front of your own goal “Orlovs.”

  • Steve Killmon

    Only thing I’d correct is that Green seemed to do what he could to angle Hartnell to the boards on the second Voracek goal (Flyers’ fifth) and it was Fehr who got turned around and completely flat-footed, allowing Voracek to streak straight up the middle and beat Grubauer. As much as I love the guy, Fehr made a mistake and didn’t even get a stick in the way to hold up Voracek.

  • Alex Hughes

    This Defense sucks. A blind man could figure that out but sadly GMGM can’t. I was glad that John Erskine got kicked out of the game, he did us a favor of not watch him lumber around and try to do hockey, which he isn’t very good at. I’ve been down on Connor Carrick for awhile and will continue to be based on these performances. If the Caps want to improve their D they will have to improve it from within so that means bringing up Schmidt and benching Erskine for good once Orlov comes back. If you want another right D shot bring up Wey or Oleksy for all I care.

  • M Taylor

    I think the effects of it started showing already tonight.

  • Owen Johnson

    I’m kind of with you. It’s not over yet. However we only got 1 point out of 4 HUGE points against a team that WAS only 1 point ahead of us in the standings for the final playoff spot.

  • OVECHKING

    Sorry Peter, i’ve done more comprehensive evaluations of ovechkin who, is my favorite player on the caps, a guy who i’ve been watching play hockey since he turned 17 and watched every single one of his 445 goals. I’ve done better write ups than the one above with references and video examples. Some even posted to this site but its a weeknight and I frankly don’t have the time to do it now. You can check my comment history here and find those comments if you are so inclined.

    I’ll do a better write up if the situation presents itself (weekend game)

  • Marky Narc

    vine.co/v/MAUpY1YDBdJ

    Here’s the vine (of the first one at least), because I know we all want to see it again. :/

  • Owen Johnson

    No no no. It’s all the goaltending.

  • Steve Killmon

    AND YOU MAY ASK YOURSELF: WELL, HOW DID I GET HERE!?

    It’s actually not a bad question…

  • Barrett

    Green was actually on the otherside of the ice with Giroux, Alzner is the one that angled off Hartnell as he jumped on the ice for a line change. You are correct on Eric Fehr being the one with the turnover and then being flat footed letting Voracek streak in….putting Mike Green in ANOTHER 2v1, he took away Giroux and let Grubauer have the shooter which I am sure will have 85% of Capitals fans complain about how he played that wrong.

  • Owen Johnson

    We’ll get one in April.

  • Nicole Lippy

    Bad, bad game. Embarrassing for both teams. I just hope Holtby doesn’t get burned for this, as the lack of defense was really the killer. I expect we see Halak as the starter for awhile and Holtby as the back-up once again this season.

    On a happy note, anyone see Penner just back into that one flyer and lay him out, and steal the puck in the process? That was nice. And that whole standing in front of the net thing.

  • Barrett

    17 years is a long enough wait.

  • Austin

    Holy F*** Caps why do you hurt my hockey mind God D*** im tired of this S*** man! 5 goals ( not counting the empty net ) and we score 4 and lose? GMGM see’sthe problem, he must just be F***ing with us for fun since he’s still getting paid

  • yv

    Caps have played and looked so depressed first 3/4 of the game that I start thinking that they lost the loved one. Erat?

  • Alex Hughes

    Well on the positive side we still are only 2 points behind the Rangers and 4 behind Philly if that really means anything

  • Matthew McGinnity

    Yes I completely agree It must be looked at as four points lost. I’m mainly just venting my distain for all the way to quickly escalated negative posts. Like, “Oates is terrible/Whole coaching staff is terrible. GMGM needs to be fired.” So on and so forth.

  • Austin

    D F***ING FENSE MAN -_- !!!!!!!

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    I like the anger mixed with the studious self-censorship

  • Barrett

    Erskine is actually very useful in these types of rivalry games…the problem is under-sized guys like Connor Carrick and Jack Hillen got man-handled in addition to Mike Green. Nobody on the roster cares to stick up for those guys….#freeBinky

  • Austin

    I tried sir

  • Adam Schwager

    Can we please meet in the playoffs?

  • Nicole Lippy

    Schmidt definitely needs to come back up, but I don’t think Wey would be a the right fit. If anything I’d like to see Oleksy be paired with Hillen again, they were a fairly solid pairing last year, and Oleksy’s linemates this year have made him look a lot worse than he is.

  • Barrett

    “We play a system where teams get probably more shots the way we play
    but most of them are from the outside, we’ll allow those. In some ways
    that might be better for this particular goaltender.”

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett
  • Matt Lauer

    Literally. ;)

  • Adam Schwager

    I still love a pierre mcguire thinks the Wilson on Schenn hit was dirty when Schenn moved at the last minute

  • Alex Hughes

    Yeah Erskine is good at fighting and physical play sometimes but overall he is a huge liability and he just needs to be benched for someone with a more all around game. Also with Penner coming in we have a somewhat Erskine like player physically with some Knuble skill of crashing the net.

  • OVECHKING

    This your general manager of the caps.

    “I like where we’ve gone with our blue-line. I like that hillen is back. I like the way Orlov has played. I like the way we’re lined up on the right side …we’re a real mobile defense now, that’s where we’re trying to go. Speed and puck movement, that’s the league now.” – George Mcphee today @ trade deadline presser

    He needs to go and its time the media start asking the tough questions.

    http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/2896/gmgm.jpg

  • Matt Lauer

    I recall the home game against St. Louis earlier in the season as one. Other than that, no. The mark of a bad team is one that only puts together an awesome game when everyone pushes and pulls on exactly the same wavelength and nothing else.

  • CapsKel

    Wow.

  • Alex Hughes

    You can’t start games like this and actually expect to win.

  • Matt Lauer

    Yeah I watched that press conference and cringed every last second of that clip.

  • Matthew McGinnity

    He was the GM that brought us to our first SC Finals. He also was the GM that stripped the team down and built it back up to create one of the strongest teams we ever had. The blame of underperforming in the playoffs falls on the players. You cant blame GMGM for assembling a back to back 1 seed EC team that failed in the Playoffs.

  • CapsKel

    Wilson shouldn’t have been there. Period. (Pierre is a dope, Schenn is an ass, but I expect more out of Wilson.)

  • Barrett

    Yes, Dustin Penner is a big body and physical, but he is not a fighter. He has 9 career NHL fights in 6 NHL seasons.

    John Erskine has 45 NHL fights.

  • Matt Lauer

    Clearly there were too many pancakes eaten just before this game. Firing the team nutritionist should solve things. We need a cook that doesn’t get intimidated by Penner.

  • Austin

    WTF

  • Owen Johnson

    It’s okay. I posted something like that during our 7 game losing streak.

  • Nicole Lippy

    The problem is that the caps have done it more than once this season, and fell into the expectation that they can keep doing so.

  • Adam Schwager

    Was talking about the play in the third meeting on the forecheck

  • Barrett

    No, David Poile built that team. George McPhee didn’t do anything.

  • CapsKel

    Ah, okay, gotcha!

  • Barrett

    Direct quote from GMGM – his reason for bringing in Halak.

  • CapsKel

    What.

  • Barrett

    This is what happens when you get rid of the Boyd Gordon’s and Jeff Halpern’s of the hockey world and replace them with Eric Fehr playing center.

  • Jack Conness

    Agreed. MoJo is a good player but I think he is extremely overrated.

  • Rob W.

    Their problem of playing sleepy in games is a serious problem and im not really sure what would fix it. Dale Hunter?

  • Eric

    we just don’t have the tie-breakers, we need to win with help from other teams to get in, if we win more and teams dont help us we’ll lose the tie-breaker so its either both or none, SO’s blow

  • Chris Cerullo

    LITERALLY

  • Austin

    oh okay

  • Owen Johnson

    Of course we could have been 3 points UP on the Flyers…

  • Kate Jamison

    My oh my, can we talk about how piss poor our passing attempts were?!? Off to Boston we go…think we can beat ‘em two times in a row? I said that the Caps needed 95 points to make the playoffs this season, sure does seem like a tall order, especially with losses like tonight and Sunday, even if we did get a point out of it. I guess I’m just a little bitter with the lack of effort the first two periods…..I’ll get over it. Night y’all.

  • Austin

    someone hire a mercenary and snipe GMGM I’m tired of RTRing with him as GM and I am sure hundreds of you all are as well

  • Austin

    No you have every right this team is a S*** show right now.

  • Austin

    Sorry people for my comments I have just had it rooting for this team. Shouldn’t be getting this angry over hockey

  • Owen Johnson

    Sniping him sounds a little extreme…

  • Austin

    Lol I am just joking around here, But my frustration as a caps fan is unfathomable at this point.

  • gustafsson16

    Overrated? By whom? We all know he should be on the 2nd line at best. He’s playing at the level I expect. The fault lies in the front office’s inability to find a good fit with 19 and 8. Plenty of others had opportunity this year: Laich, Erat, Fehr.

  • ErskSMASH

    we should prob trade ersk since everyone here rags on him so much, we need more blueliners the size of carrick (how is he in the nhl, please someone give him some steroids) and jack hillen (yeah yeah 1st game back)…shit, mike green plays smaller than both of them most of the time…unfortunately we dont play flyers again (PLAYOFFS?!?!) and ersk wont have a chance to see if that bitch simmons is man enough to fight him 1 on 1, this woulda been perfect game to call up oleksy latta and the wrecker

  • Roman Z.

    Hey Green, do you think it would be possible for you to play defense, cause you know, it’s kinda what you’re being paid for …

  • jj

    Mike Green is sooooo bad. Who cares if he puts up points if he just gives them back up on defense. I don’t get why Green has always been so “untouchable” for trades. His scoring is so overrated, and he plays so many minutes its ridiculous. Caps are better off without him. Hes just not interested in playing defense.

  • 0nimpulse

    1) Sorry but @cbarrett3:disqusis right. Poile built THAT team from scratch when GMGM was handing out towels and squirting soap for suits in the exec suite bathrooms. 2) They played in the Southeast. Worst division in hockey year in and year out during GMGM’s tenure. My beer league team could win games in that division. Of course they won division titles. Not to mention the EC as a whole was weak for a while during that time. 3) Sorry but GMGM has done NOTHING to make this team good except make OBVIOUS draft choices in ovechkin and backstrom. In fact, he has hurt us more than helped time and time again. Anyone remember the Jagr deal? Not to mention every trade ever made by this man has been abysmal, except the one that brought Laich to DC in the Bondra trade. Which is arguable considering Bondra was the heart and soul of the team in that era, so call it a wash.

  • AreaMan

    Dude. Voracek made one of the best hockey plays I have ever seen on that play. He strips Fehr, makes a perfect pass to Hartnell, takes the pass back,skates hard to the net, and then fires it home.

  • Barrett

    The same could be said for Karl Alzner, John Carlson, Dimitry Orlov, Connor Carrick, John Erskine, etc etc….the entire team defense has been terrible.

  • jj

    The fact that we still are discussing defensemans we should call up from the AHL is so absurd. How is it possible that GMGM watches this team everyday and doesn’t believe the defense needs help. Crazy stuff. There was nothing we could do to improve the defense apparently. Its just fine and dandy everyone. Bringing in Halak was great, but what is GMGM deal with bringing players who will be UFA after this year. Always renting these guys. How was McDonald not a guy we wanted to bring in? It just doesnt make sense to me, any of it. The Caps are so sorry and its so damn frustrating to watch this happen.

  • Ovix8

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r9fhcO0qOA
    its ok this man is coming to save us

  • northernMD

    I’m reminded of the 24/7 games a few years back and bilsma telling pitt to go out and hit green. He really does seem to turn into a very different player after he’s been slapped around a few times.

  • Roy Schue

    Philly didn’t have to pull their goalie, so it’s not like he would have scored a goal

  • Chris Cerullo

    Fehr and Mojo at center = awful in the dot.

  • Barrett

    Dude. I know….which is why it isn’t Mike Green’s fault. Eric Fehr played no defense.

  • jj

    You’re right, no one can argue otherwise. But Green is still one of the most overrated players in the entire NHL. Hes just so soft.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    Just looked at replay. I think I goofed. I mistook Green for Fehr. Editing now. Thanks guys.

  • Barrett

    Most players like Green (Keith, Campbell, Doughty, Karlsson, Boyle, etc) are notorious for being targeted for that reason. That’s why you pair them with a big body shut down type defenseman. This isn’t a Mike Green issue, its a team issue.

  • Guest

    Doughty, Karlsson and Keith are not ‘soft’.

  • Cthulu’s Alarm Clock

    I don’t know what was said on RMNB’s FB page, but the ‘vile comments’ statement makes me glad I didn’t post what I was thinking last night (it involved a truckload of bad beef getting delivered to Geno’s)…

  • AreaMan

    I watched the replay and thought, “Wow, Voracek just did about 4 things my hockey coach used to scream at us during every practice.

    “Cut off the route!”
    “Hard to the net!”
    “Stick on the ice”
    “If you have the shot, take IT!”

  • Diller M

    We got the first shot attempt so thats….. somthing….

  • Jonah

    I think the mark of a bad team is not a team that only produces when everyone is on the same page, but a bad team is a team that has games where everyone is not on the same wavelength.

  • Jonah

    Pierre didn’t see it correctly cus he had Sids cock in his mouth the whole game/career

  • Hockey mom

    From the first minute, the Caps just looked sloppy and undisciplined. I think Oates always playing it cool is having the wrong effect. At least if you have a guy out there showing emotion, you know he has passion. It seems like he is more of a “friend” to the guys rather than their coach. What these guys really need is a leader and someone who will take them all to task and hold them accountable for their efforts (or lack thereof).

    It is sad to see guys who have a lot of talent let it go to waste. They will never get this time or opportunity again. Something needs to change in the mentality of this group, THIS is do or die time and has been for a couple of months already. Across the board EVERYONE needs to get back to basics and clean up their game! We are getting killed by stupid things that snowball and run us into the ground.

    If they have guys that don’t care on the ice, I would rather see Oleksy back in the line up, because I never felt like he didn’t care and wasn’t trying out there.

  • OlietheGoalie

    Look, I know he’s an offensive d-man (in more than one way some times), but Mike Green’s pass from beside the net being stolen almost made me punch through my TV. Like… come on. I know we like to rag on the dude a lot but Holtby should have hit 52 immediately after that goal.

  • OlietheGoalie

    Starting a petition to have him “disappear”. Anyone in?

  • Rhino40

    I don’t have to pay anything ever because I won’t do business with Papa John’s anymore. At least, not until he:

    • Recovers from ODS,
    • Stops being BFF’s with the Koch brothers,
    • Stops believing his own “Job-Creator” BS, and
    • Starts treating his employees like human beings instead of chattel.

    Sad really, because I remember his product as being one of the better “non boutique” pizzas on the market; my arteries are clogging just thinking about that tasty garlic butter dipping sauce,,,

  • Barrett

    What defines a player as soft? Injuries? I don’t think you can label a player as soft from concussions – which is what caused Green to start missing games a few years back when he took two pucks to the head (one from Brooks Orpik).

    Nobody likes taking hits, especially when finesse puck moving defenseman that are getting hammered on the forecheck.

  • Hockey mom

    Those freaking blind passes are killing me! We are disciplined enough to pull them off! We end up either turning the puck over or flat out getting burned (with a score) 90% of the time we try them. Please, just stop!!

  • Hockey mom

    Miss you, Steve!!!

  • Eric Schulz

    Absolutely agree. I liked Johansson on that line because that seemed the best way to create the proper depth for the team. It’d be nice to have a more legit 1st liner, but you can’t just put your best 3 forwards on the top line, 4-6 on 2nd, etc, or else you can’t roll lines, and you’ll play your top-6 35 mins a night.
    Now, however, I want Penner there… although that will be much easier to do once we get Kuznetsov, and Grabovski comes back; I want
    Penner – Backstrom – Ovechkin
    Kuznetsov – Grabovski – Brouwer
    but I wouldn’t hate flipping Penner and Kuznetsov…

  • Eric Schulz

    I disagree about Oates. I never really had a lot of respect for coaches that felt they needed to scream or yell to try to “fire you up” for the game. I wanted to play, that’s why I was there; I assume that’s even more valid for professionals. I always respected, and responded better, to coaches that would teach, rather than yell. Help make me a better player, don’t try to yell at me, I’ll just tune you out immediately.

  • Eric Schulz

    You don’t get why teams wouldn’t be clamoring over themselves to give up a 1st and a top-4 defender for Mike Green?
    It’s not about somebody being “untouchable,” it’s about getting fair value in a trade. If he assists on 2, and gives up 1, I’d rather have him out there than anybody we could (likely) trade him for.

  • Eric Schulz

    Except for Alzner and Carlson… they haven’t been as consistently solid this year as they had been in previous, but they are still easily our best pairing… I feel like the system is to blame when even those 2 are having down years.

  • Eric Schulz

    I assume it was racist stuff. It’s okay to attack Simmonds for being a cheap piece of shit… not for the color of his skin.

  • Eric Schulz

    If we give up 5 and only score 4… that means we need to add more wingers. Obviously.

  • Eric Schulz

    No, I think most of us realize that Green played the 2-on-1 properly there… I’m not sure he did a *great* job of taking away the pass, but he clearly did a good enough job because Voracek elected to shoot. Fehr shouldn’t have come out on Voracek, he should’ve angled him; he got turned around and burned… and the announcers blamed Green, if I remember correctly, but they are morons.

  • Eric Schulz

    To be fair to GMGM, that Bondra trade was excellent; Bondra was my favorite player, but GMGM realized that we needed to rebuild, so he acquired a player who could help us for the next 10 years, and jettisoned one who could help for another 2, max. If only he were that savvy NOW.
    Also, the Jagr trade was legit; I remember being excited about it, because we fucking FLEECED the Penguins. Too bad we got the only version of Jagr that sucked. Even NOW he’s killing it in New Jersey. That wasn’t GMGM’s fault, the trade was very smart, it just (inconceivably) didn’t work out.
    He’s made a few more nice trades, but yeah, in 17 years that’s not terribly impressive. I’d say about 80% of his trades are shit, 50% of his FA signings work out, and very rarely does he maximize the draft beyond obvious picks (which isn’t exactly “maximizing,” except you can’t get more value than Ovechkin at #1, so clearly that was the “maximum” value you can get…)

  • Hockey mom

    I don’t think he needs to yell either, but the “strong, silent” approach isn’t getting through.

    These guys aren’t showing that they are disciplined enough to make the right choices right now. If they mess up, they need to know it and what they need to do to correct their play. Maybe it means just saying “Come on, what was that? Think about what you are doing! Hit the tape” Just stuff that, despite being professionals, needs to be said to keep them on track.

    It shows that he is paying attention and that he cares enough about the game and his players to want to fix things as soon as possible for the best outcome.

  • gustafsson16

    Definitely would like to see Penner on the top line with Backstrom and Ovechkin. As you said, while having all the super scoring, high-flying players on a line looks good on paper, we all know this isnt a recipe for success. Especially in the playoffs. I look at Penner is maybe being able to provide a Knuble-like dynamic (but younger with higher production possibilities). Johansson with Backstrom is just too much of the same thing and Id be warry of putting Kuz up there as well. I really wish we had a better alternative to Brouwer for line 2 (maybe Wilson in a year or 2).

  • Cthulu’s Alarm Clock

    Nah. Basically I was hoping a truckload of bad beef would get delivered to Geno’s & give the whole city the shits for a month. Comparing that to racist comments others might’ve made makes it seem not so bad…

  • Eric Schulz

    I agree that Wilson in 2 years, certainly, should look nice on that 2nd line, I think Brouwer is a legit 2nd liner. If we wipe out what he did for the first 40 games of the season, he’s been a clear-cut top-6 guy for the last 3 or 4 years, I believe. He’s should be a 25 goal, 55 point scorer; we need a bit more consistency, but it *looks* like he’s figured it out (he talked about how he’d gotten away from his game, and then scored 5 goals in 3 games; good sign), and if he gets to play with Kuznetsov and Grabovski I’d expect him to consistently put up 55-60 points over a 3 or 4 year span, assuming we kept that trio together for that long.