All Over But the Shouting: Stars beat Caps 5-0

It seems the Washington Capitals didn’t have anything left in the tank after that trip through California. Since then, it’s been a spirally flush down a soiled toilet. This time, someone remembered to flush. The Dallas Stars didn’t even have to be good because the Caps were freaking awful.

Tyler Seguin scored after a turnover. Ray Whitney scored after a turnover. Dustin Jeffrey scored after a defensive clustereff and then again in the third. Garbutt got a shorty.

It was never close. Ever.

Stars beat Caps 5-0. Shutout. Dagger. Coffin. Fat lady.

  • Shut out for Calle Johansson. Very good work by the Dallas goalie.
  • I peeked at the Weyland Yutani Out-of-town Scoarboard. It’s over, guys. Maybe the Caps can win every game from here on out, but we should get real.
  • Jaroslav Halak was sacrificed to the bench after the Caps gave up their third goal, but anyone thinking he was at fault is a butthead. No, it turns out he’s not the 2014 version of Cristobal Huet, but goaltending was NEVER THE PROBLEM anyway.
  • Braden Holtby, who should be the Caps #1 goalie in the fall once Halak gets the hell out of dodge, was awesome in relief.
  • The Capitals’ utter disdain for the neutral zone is fascinating. Not fascinating like, “cool, fascinating.” More like how scaphism or antibiotic resistance is fascinating. When the Caps were stuck in their own zone for approximately 17 minutes in the second period, Orlov’s lazy stretch pass to the far blue line led directly to the Ray Whitney two-on-none goal that broke the team’s back. I chose broke deliberately there, as the team is definitely broken.
  • I’ll share the shot attempt chart in the comments below, where you’ll notice that the Caps did positive nothing after getting scored on. Each time the Stars scored, they spiked in shot attempts. That’s what giving up looks like.
  • Adam Oates split up Beagle and Alex Ovechkin in the third period. That was two weeks too late.
  • Also in the third period, the Capitals started generating offense. That was also too late, but it was like 6 months too late.
  • The Capitals power play is supposed to be the best in the league. Tonight they were exemplary at setting up shorthanded chances for the Stars, who are supposed to be objectively wretched at the penalty kill.
  • Dustin Jeffrey averages nine minutes of ice a night, so he’s a hardcore fourth liner for Dallas. And yet his grinding ass got two skill goals on the Caps.
  • Meanwhile the Caps bottom line was outshot 12 to 1 after 40 minutes. That’s 7% puck possession, about 43% below average.
  • I got a burrito, but they put corn salsa in it, which is gross. Then I bumped my knee, which hurt. Plus my dog smells awful. And I heard they discovered some new disease in China. Everything sucks.
  • CSN had a hot mic or a bad connection along the boards that threatened to blow my speakers every time there was action near it. Good news it was in the Stars end, which didn’t see much action.
  • Third line was still good. No matter what, they’re still good. They’re lawful good.
Get well soon, Joe B. We miss you.

Get well soon, Joe B. We miss you.

We’ll have more later, but heads should roll. These Caps look way way worse than the team that supposedly gave up on Boudreau.

I don’t have much to say here except you deserve better. You invest time and money and feels into this team, and they let you down hard.

As of right now, the Washington Capitals show no intent to make any changes.

An earlier version of this story contained a phrase I did not know was offensive. It has since been removed. Thanks to Ryan for the heads up.

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  • Jack Conness

    I’m sorry but I am going all anti-Oates here until this moron is fired. Besides that absolutely horrendous defense he and his coaching staff have put together, their next biggest issue is center. So what does the brilliant Adam Oates do? He puts Grabo, one of our most talented players, on the LEFT WING with the completely useless Jay Beagle (still like him, but only on the 4th line). Are you kidding me? You think a Grabo-Beagle-Ovi line is going to do anything? And playing Kuzya on the 4th line is real productive? Haven’t we seen how bad Erskine is? They should of fired you right after the 4th goal from Dallas. Right on the spot. What an awful, wasteful season to watch with you on the bench. In the most important game of the year, no one shows up. No urgency. No one knows what is going on, who they will play with, or the style of hockey they are going to play. I’ve had enough of the chaos, the line changes, and the misuse of player. Adam Oates AND GMGM must be gone at the end of this disastrous season. We need fresh faces and a fresh start.

    I hope all of you enjoy warm weather and baseball, because that is the only thing that I am looking forward to right now.

  • Dave

    THIS ISN’T WORKING!!!!

  • Lawrence

    I want to cry a little. It just boggles my mind how bad we’ve become since 2010. Reality really hit hard this game. Everything we have been saying comes to the forefront. Oates sucks. Mcphee blows. Defense is atrocious. Offense is garbage. Powerplay is dreadful now that teams cover ovi. This is like a nightmare, I need my teddy.

  • dylan wheatley

    nice knowing you oates

  • MuzzMuzzington

    You told me, I’ve seen it all before
    I been there, I’ve seen my hopes and dreams
    Lying on the ground

    I’ve seen the sky just begin to fall
    And you say, “All things pass into the night”
    And I say, “Oh no sir, I must say you’re wrong
    I must disagree, oh no sir, I must say you’re wrong”
    Won’t you listen to me

    Good-bye Oates, I’m flying over you
    Good-bye McPhee, I’m flying over you
    Good-bye Calle, I’m flying over you
    Good-bye Season, I’m flying, flying, flying over you

  • Chris Cerullo

    Holy tire fire shitshow. I’m not even mad anymore. It’s hilarious what has gone on this year. Travesty to the people who support this team daily and spend money on them to have to watch that abysmalness. Just wow.

  • MuzzMuzzington

    I’m gonna take some hockey lessons this summer. If Oates is still coaching, maybe I’ll be a first line center!

  • Chris Cerullo

    Agreed on all points brotha

  • Josh Carey

    The last few games in regards to comments the media has raised about the Caps top line not producing at five on five, Oates has said, and I’m paraphrasing, that this time of the year teams don’t give up much 5v5 and he didn’t think anything was wrong.

    Is your team the exception Oates? You’re allowed to give up a ton 5v5 and not do anything for yourselves?

  • Jack Conness

    You probably aren’t that good. So you would be a perfect fit on the 1st line with Ovi.

    I kid, I kid.

  • Guest

    It’s time to blow it up, if they get good offers for anybody, I mean anybody, take it and rebuild.

  • Really pissed fan

    If Oates and McPhee aren’t out after this season i’m seriously going to stop being a Caps fan.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com Ian Oland
  • Josh Carey

    I’ll be honest, I started laughing really hard when the Caps started giving up all those odd man rushes in the second.

  • Andrew Merewitz

    Come join the discussion in /r/caps about what to make of this game/team.

    http://www.reddit.com/r/caps/comments/21z6tb/caps_lay_an_egg_in_huge_game_discuss_it_here/

  • Matt Lauer

    Heavens to Betsy.

  • Myan

    Tonight was really symbolic of this Oates “era” in DC. It was only fitting that this is the exact score that ended last season and Oates’ crowning jewel (the PP) failed miserably. The players looked dejected & frustrated and yet Oates just stands there. His inability to get any sort of response out of the players really says it all. Caps royalty or not, he needs to step down.

  • Thomas

    HA..HA…HA

    sums up this pathetic showing, and I mean P A T H E T I C showing lol, season was over a long time ago ladies and gents, lets all hope GMGM and Monsieur AO get the pink slip

  • Red

    This game reminds me of this one time I had food poisoning, strep throat, dysentery, pink eye, inner ear infection, and crabs, all at the same time. On top of that my girlfriend had just dumped me, I was hung over, and my toiled was clogged. So I was sitting in my broken desk chair, eating pizza I had just burned to a crisp, while watching puppies being kicked repeatedly and hoping that this was all just a bad dream….

    But it wasn’t, and neither was this shit-show.

  • Kelsey

    My heart…

  • Luis Riveros

    Peter Laviolette for coach 2014-2015! Change is on the way…

  • Sam

    Not saying Oates has “WOWed” me, but I can tell you this is a personnel problem and McPhee is the issue. He has been awful. Absolutely awful as putting together a team with chemistry. Not to mention managing the cap and adding the right
    Veterans to a team that is in need of impactful 2nd and 3rd liners. GMGM has been a joke for a few years now. I just can’t figure it out as to why this guy still had a job…

  • Guest

    No it wasn’t

  • Thomas

    I am with you on this

  • Roy Schue

    All caps take notice, that is how a team that is fighting for a playoff spot is supposed to play.

  • Thomas

    Its sad when you end up cheering for Dallas to score more lol

  • Luis Riveros

    Wayne “The Great One” Gretzky for GM…the Cup is near!

  • Roy Schue

    What he said^^^^

  • Plz

    Leonsis has linked here, so he obviously reads RMNB. Plz be our spokesperson tell him we need all management re-worked. Enough is enough, the most important fans, the die hard fans, are losing faith quickly.

  • Chris Cerullo

    Beens saying this since Christmas. Would love it.

  • 70Caps

    The capitals still had points in 7 of the last 8. They’re only 1 point out. 7 games left isn’t all the time in the world, but it is plenty enough time to turn it around. The capitals had some chances, and there were flashes of what they are capable of. It’s not that bad, so calm down, and try to forget about what happened. Can’t we just think of it as a cruel April fools joke?

  • Alex Hughes

    **Rant Time** This team fucking sucks good god. I’m tired of the the stand around gang defense letting the other team do whatever they please. It’s gonna take a miracle to make the playoffs, and this team has given up on Oates and everybody. In my opinion, it’s time to blow this team up and get some draft picks. Trade Green, MOJO, Beagle, buyout Erskine, anybody but Ovi and Backstrom and the third line should be up for grabs. It is time to hit the restart button with this team especially with the coaching staff. Calle’s D System sucks, Blaine Forsythe doesn’t do shit, and Adam Oates has the worst line combinations I’ve ever seen. Why not change the lines before the game as opposed to three times during the game. This team has made some boneheaded decisions with letting go players (Perreault, Forsberg) and bringing guys in (Erat). God forbid we trade for a D-man or something we actually need .5 on 5 play has been awful since the Olympic Break and this team has just imploded. Somethings gotta change, especially coaching staffs, and GMGM.

  • Rob W.

    Well thats the last game i watch this season. This team lacks serious heart, leadership, and obviously coaching. Obviously Oates, Calle, and GMGM need to F’n go but Ovi can no longer be exempt from criticism either, he absolutely stinks right now and Backstrom has to be better. Only positive thing to think about is if we make changes, theres no way we are this bad again next year. Absolutely disgusted with this teams lack of heart….Cant wait to hear the excuses after this one, “we werent ready” is my favorite one that makes me want to pull my hair out

  • Jack Conness

    Mike Knuble.

  • Harjot Singh

    Twd Leonsis better right me a 5 page essay in why I should still be a season ticket holder next year,

  • JenniferH

    I feel bad for Halak/Holtby and Chimera/Ward/Fehr, none of them gave up
    Oh, heck, I feel bad for all the players because they’re playing under
    HCAO. #FireOates For the love of all that’s holy. #FIREOATES! If
    he’s still here next season, I just don’t even know………..

  • Alex Hughes

    Before this game I had the same mindset as you, but we made their 4th line look like the Harlem Globetrotters on ice. I don’t know how you can turn it around, I’m hoping they can, but I have my doubts.

  • Rob W.

    i wanted them to score 20

  • Guest

    Even if they do make the playoffs, which is not likely at all, there are systematic problems with this team both player personnel and coaching. Especially coaching, Beagle on the 1st line come on

  • Myan

    When a team’s 4th line goes tic-tac-toe against your top line and gets 7 points, something is inherently wrong with the team. Playoffs are not going happen.

  • Jack Conness

    You haven’t watched many games this year, have you.

  • Alex Hughes

    Only players I would keep on this roster are Ovi, Backy, the third line, Carlson, Alzner, Grabo, Orly, and the goaltenders, other than that I wouldn’t be disappointed in seeing players go.

  • notOvifaul

    If I were the captain of a team that is being sunk by outside forces, I would give up. That is the only way to send a message. When the best goal scorer is put on a line with a 4th line/AHL player, there is a problem. It has been shown time and time again not to work, yet Oates keeps putting him out there. Honestly, if I were Oates, I would call a player meeting and have the players mutany for their own lines and plays. Honestly, if you threw them out there and said “play hockey,” with no scheme, they would be better than they are now.

  • 70Caps

    Did any of you people actually watch the entire game????

  • Matt Lauer
  • https://twitter.com/Haddaweezy Holy_Cal

    Uhhhh the Chipotle corn salsa is what puppy dreams are made of, it’s the best of what’s around and it adds a slightly sweet yet subtle hint of heat. It’s so good with cheese and sour cream, and whichever protein I choose.

    Meh towards the Caps though, the last game of our plan was Saturday’s oddly timed day game and now it’s baseball season. Go O’s.

  • 70Caps

    I just said the opposite of that.

  • Alex Hughes

    Yes and while there were flashes in the pan, and maybe you can build off it, overall this was a terrible effort. If we can play like we started the 1st period, maybe we can turn it around.

  • lonestar21

    O’s suck. Go Nats

  • https://twitter.com/Haddaweezy Holy_Cal

    Ha!

    Let me give you the gist of his declaration: give me more money and I’ll let you attend these games.

  • Mitchell Brown

    Its easy to be mad, its right to be mad and upset. Im both of those things, but ive taken a few minutes to calm down and this is my summary.

    It isnt fair to say the players don’t care, not all of the at least. We all know for a fact there are plenty of guys in that room that arent happy. Anyone of us who was an athlete growing up, high school, rec, anything- you know the feeling of losing like this (unless you dont, then thats cool, pretend).

    So its fair to be mad and upset- but i know the personal attacks and words of hate arent ok. If you think they are get off this wagon, because she wont be smooth sailing for awhile to come now. Only they have the power to change whats happening. not us.

    buckle up.

  • Roy Schue

    Add kuzya and Grabo to that list

  • Heidi

    I heard a “bring back Schultz” chant start, I heard people on the metro wishing we had some of the mites on ice on our team, and the loudest cheer was when the game ended. Things are bleak in DC.

  • Myan

    I watched it from start to finish like I’ve watched the other 70+. This team has checked out for the season. They have zero faith in the coaching and after what I’ve seen this season, I can’t blame them.

  • Alex Hughes

    Agreed

  • Alex Hughes

    No you won’t

  • Seth Malaguerra

    Remember back when everyone thought the Caps players had given up on Boudreau? I’m pretty sure that at that time, and right on through the present, the team has just given up on hockey.

  • Toby

    I for one would be happy to see Laviolette as head coach at least he will be ballsy enough to say you don’t try and win you can sit on the bench and i’ll put someone out there who actually wants to win

  • 70Caps

    thank you, I know the capitals are a longshot for anything in the playoffs, but they have a chance. If the sabres beat the bruins in one game does it define their franchise?

  • Guest

    You mean you’re not looking forward to endless Skins speculation about DeSean Jackson

  • https://twitter.com/Haddaweezy Holy_Cal

    Call me when you A.) win 3 World Series, B.) Have several players enshrined in Cooperstown, C.) Have played in a city for more than 30 years (O’s are on their 61st season) and finally D.) Terrance stops prancing down the first base line cheering like an NFL Cheerleader.

  • Chris Cerullo

    I support both squads. It’s weird.

  • Peteo

    No. Absolutely not. And I love Knuble (even with his comment about DC fans). No more first-time NHL head coaches.

  • Really pissed fan

    I wish it wasn’t.

  • https://twitter.com/Haddaweezy Holy_Cal

    Ain’t nothing wrong with that, I enjoy myself a Nats game every once in awhile.

  • Jack Conness

    I’m actually from the Chicago area so I can’t wait to see Lamarr Houston and Jared Allen win the Bears a Super Bowl :)

    GO WHITE SOX TOO! F THE CUBS!

  • 70Caps

    Its funny how many of you people think your actual fans.
    And maybe I’m crazy, but I’m not going to turn on my team just like that. A few games ago, everybody was brimming with hope and confidence. It should not be changing so quickly unless Ovechkin is murdered by backstrom or something.

  • 70Caps

    I watch about 70 games a year and go to about 5. These are not the capitals that play every game.

  • Megan

    Why?!?

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    We’ve watched more than one game.

  • VeggieTart

    I agree on all points, but it’s should have, not should of. That was a raging fertilizer plant fire.

  • 70Caps

    Have you ever heard anyone on the team actually critisize the coaching? If you have, please tell me all about it.

  • Jack Conness

    I know. I’m a little delusional now. Just throwing names out right now lol anyone but Oates.

  • Guest

    First of all Chicago will lose two times this year to the my team, the Packers and Go Yankees

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett
  • Austin

    Guys this was just an April fools joke. Caps are going to win the Stanley cup!

    (Cries deeply inside)

  • Myan

    It’s an observation of something called body language and engagement.

  • https://twitter.com/Haddaweezy Holy_Cal

    Take a look at the Wizards GM sitch. Grunfeld should have been fired thrice times by now, yet he remains because Leonsis can’t fire anyone.

  • Alex Hughes

    We aren’t turning on the team, at least I’m not, I’m just tired of these poor efforts

  • Chris Cerullo

    Reddit and sports should never coexist

  • 70Caps

    Every single game has not been a poor effort. Maybe not a world class effort, but there have not been that many horrible efforts, especially recently.

  • Alex Hughes
  • Darin

    I think the time has come for me to stop being a Caps fan. What’s the point of cheering for a team full of players who don’t give a shit and a coach who has no idea what he’s doing? This team is an emarrassment, plain and simple.

  • Alex Hughes

    I’m not saying every game has been a poor effort, but it’s disappointing how the Caps blow leads like no tomorrow, and can accomplish very little 5 on 5

  • Really pissed fan

    Same here sadly.

  • 70Caps

    It is a “veiled” shot though, and I know its notable, but come to me when some one outright attacks oates.

  • Alex Hughes

    People still cheer for the Skins, it’s the exact same situation there

  • Guest

    Just because people are upset with coaching and management doesn’t mean we are turning on the team. I watch every game and will continue to but this was a terrible effort, and an indictment of poor coaching and what looks like players giving up on said coaching.

  • Really pissed fan

    I’m not a skins fan though, i’m from Baltimore so yeah.

  • Myan

    People aren’t turning on the team, they’re turning on the poor management and disheartened to see players frustrated when we KNOW that they can perform. This team is in trouble and there are some DARK days ahead if the coaching & management doesn’t change fast.

  • H70

    I’m a newb. How often does a normal team change their lines?

  • 70Caps

    How does a totally incompetent team remain in 9th place in the standings?

  • Myan

    Dude, nobody is going to come out and say “Oates is a horrible coach who doesn’t know what he’s doing.” It’s called being professional.

  • Chris Cerullo

    If this was 2009 those colors would be flipped. Really sad how things have turned out.

  • Seth Malaguerra

    It can be an effective way to wake players up, shake things up a bit. Provided everything else is not total shit, as is the case here. Coaches of real hockey teams will go to it every so often.

  • 70Caps

    If its as bad as everyone is making it sound, thats exactly what every player would do.

  • Myan

    Because the Eastern Conference is riddled with poor teams…that seems kind of obvious. We’re 19th in the league.

  • 70Caps

    ONE POINT OUT!!!!!!
    They don’t even need to turn any thing around!!!

  • JenniferH

    I’d add Kuzya and Wilson here.

  • 70Caps

    The way your talking, they should be last overall.

  • https://twitter.com/Haddaweezy Holy_Cal

    Third line minus Chimera, the Ice Cheetah doesn’t do it for me.

  • 70Caps

    Poor efforts from who??? That directly implies the team is not trying.

  • 70Caps

    Then get out.

  • Alex Hughes

    They need to regroup from this game and get ready for a hard game in Jersey, which is critical and then they should beat the Islanders, and Columbus has Philly and Boston next so you never know, I hope they can turn it around

  • https://twitter.com/Haddaweezy Holy_Cal

    From Holtby’s quotes earlier in the season (speaking in terms of poor preparation and not being focused.) indicated to me that they in fact don’t care and aren’t trying.

  • Myan

    They should but we’re lucky that our players are not dirtbags.

  • Alex Hughes

    Without Chimera, Ward isn’t as effective, they need to be together to make things go.

  • JenniferH

    :(

  • Myan

    Only thing is that our biggest trade chips are probably Wardo & Brouwer. At least, those are the guys that we can afford to lose.

  • Jonah

    Brouwer, mojo, penner, beagle, and laich need to go
    Also D needs to go back to Hershey.
    Biggest problem now is OV as captain. Someone else needs the C.
    Also everyone wearing a suit on this team needs a pink slip before midnight tonight. (Gmgm coaches, leonsis if only)

  • 70Caps

    You people are all so lame. If its as bad as you say, go directly to the top. Let’s all start a campaign to get Leonsis to sell the team to Toronto!
    because OBVIOUSLY an owner like him is a total idiot not to have fired GMGM already. Seriously? A couple years into Mcphees time as GM, the capitals were nobodies with a bunch of incompetent old vets, and I don’t know how the capitals got into it, but all I know is that just 2 seasons ago they were stanley cup favorites.

  • yv

    Time to triple trade right now involving Oates, Carlyle and Torts?! And then see who will succeed most at the end of the season. Toronto after 8 losses finally won, so they officially also ahead of Caps.
    And the only word that describe this Caps:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoOJW6ez36U

  • Jimmie

    You might have had me, but then you used the word “impactful”, which is the linguistic equivalent of Jay Beagle on the first line.

  • Dave

    One point out from what? Being swept in the first round of the playoffs? What has this team done all season that makes you look forward to going up against a top team in a playoff series?

  • Really pissed fan

    The other thing is that I can’t stand the owner, he just doesn’t care anymore.

  • Guest

    I agree but as Neil Greenberg said if you got a good deal for any of these players why not take it. However, I agree with your list and would play young players in meaningful roles unlike they have been used this season

  • JenniferH

    Oh, in the minority probably, but I’d want to keep Brouwer too.

  • Alex Hughes

    It’s better than no playoffs at all, and once the playoffs begin anything can happen, we’ve seen it before

  • Hockey mom

    Here are my bullet points:
    *should have benched Laich at the beginning of the season to deal with his groin issues
    *should have kept Oleksy
    *should have used Erat better
    *Should have showed some passion, heart and hustle EVERY game

    That’s all I got right now…my dog is pacing needing to go outside…

    UGH!

  • Bilal

    well look at the bright side……………….wait

  • #3

    That’s just not true. (As far as the players go) I admit that I don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes, but having met most of them by now, they care deeply. If you read the Brouwer quote, I think most of them would say that they never really clicked with Oates’ system. But they do love hockey and wanted to win badly this year.

  • 70Caps

    So George McPhee is doing a good job???

  • ??????

    Okay, this might sound crazy, but if we do get a new GM and if Ted ever aloud this to happen (that’s a huge “IF”) do you think the Caps should pull a Philadelphia and trade their two top players (Ovechkin and Backstrom) away?

    Now this sounds insane I know, but Philly wanted to go in a new direction with their new young stars and traded away Richards and Carter. Now I know both Richards and Carter went on to win the cup in L.A. and Philly had a few bumps in the road, but right now it looks like it’s all paying off because Philly is peaking at the right time and could do some damage come playoff time. We wouldn’t need a complete team overhaul, as we could add a few veterans and experienced players here and there. Focusing on Kuznetsov, Wilson, and Burakovsky could mirror Philly’s situation in focusing on Giroux, Couturier, and B. Schenn.

    We could still get a good amount back for both Ovi and Backstrom just because of who they are. So, if the team was aloud to do it would it be an insane idea, or would it be the kick in the pants the organization needs to get back on track?

  • Tim

    Fans like you make me embarrassed to be a caps fan. Yea ik they look like shit rn, but you stay with your team no matter how bad. I’m guessing you became a fan in 08

  • Josh Carey

    Two points behind the Jackets and they have a game in hand. Three behind the Wings and they have a game in hand. And everybody and their mother has the tiebreaker over the caps.

  • Dave

    Not if it convinces Uncle Ted to keep GMGM and Oates in charge…

  • Alex Hughes

    Nobody said that, you’re taking this way too far

  • 70Caps

    It’s what they did last season, or two seasons ago. The team’s core is still there.

  • Roy Schue

    Although I agree we should have a different captain, who has a C on there jersey is hardly our biggest problem…doesn’t even make the top ten right now.

  • Myan
  • Josh Carey

    Richards and Carter were not top 10 in the world players like Backstrom and Ovechkin.

  • Dave

    Yes, because the Caps have had so much playoff success with this core that we should expect a deep playoff run…

  • Tim

    Caps need a coach who is going to beat their asses when they play like this. GMGM needs to go and so does Calle Johansson. My brothers peewee team has better defense then the caps. As far as Oates goes, I think he should be an assistant coach. Reason: His PP is amazing and Ovi has a good relationship with him. Hopefully Laviolette will be here soon!

  • Hockey mom

    I do wonder about Ovi being captain…Some people are better doing “their” job without adding BS extra pressure…It makes me wonder if he is that kind of person. He wants to go out and score goals, but doesn’t want the extra Captain pressures, and that then radiates out to the team…Just speculating…

  • 70Caps

    Myan JUST said that “They should but we’re lucky that our players are not dirtbags.” about players publicly criticizing oates. If the team itself is good, then McPhee’s got to be doing part of his job very well. All he needs to do is spread that to the rest of his job.

  • Daniel Walker

    As crappy as this seems right now, it might be better if miss the playoffs by a mile instead of a millimeter. If we just missed the tourney, it would be way to easy for Ted to use injuries and bad luck as a justification for keeping the George, Adam & Calle around. I get the feeling Ted will use any excuse he has to retain these idiots. Not sure I can handle another season of this baffoonery.

  • Alex Hughes

    So you want to rip the C off Ovi’s jersey, basically stating that you have no faith in Ovi leading this team, taking away all of his confidence, and who are you gonna give it to. Having a C used to mean something, now all it means is that you get to talk to the ref when they call a penalty, or if something is under review. Penner also doesn’t need to go, he has been given zero opportunity to play on a line that can produce offensively.

  • 70Caps

    How am I trolling???? This whole place full of trolls except for maybe 2 or 3 people.

  • Kevin

    They largely got outplayed for the last several weeks, though. Even in the California road trip: they won some tough games and got some lucky bounces, but that was in large part to Halak playing out of his mind and some inspired play by a handful of players. Our passing has been errant, our possession numbers are awful, we commit an infuriating number of turnovers and seem to never get out of our zone because we are incredibly predictable. That is to mention nothing about the defense, which hasn’t exactly gotten a lot of back checking support from their wingers (like Dallas’ fourth goal I believe where Ovechkin was a bystander until it was too late. It’s just not good hockey being played here. It’s time for some changes. I think that’s just being objective.

  • RESmith

    “We’ll have more later, but heads should roll.” We have a lame-duck GM who knows he has little chance of being signed to an extension in the off-season. So it is doubtful he will fire the coach for the remaining games. So… I hate to bring up this ugly monster again, but if we are looking for a change of leadership, what about giving Chimera the C for the remainder of the season and see how the team responds? He and Ward are the core of the line that has been the most consistent in terms of play and effort going back to last year’s playoffs. Chimera is the longer tenured of the two. Just saying if the season is all but lost, why not give it a try?

  • 70Caps

    Exactly. Oates does not equal everyone else on the team. Simple math. And dont tell me that was sarcasm.

  • Josh Carey

    Directly from the recap: “I don’t have much to say here except you deserve better. You invest time and money and feels into this team, and they let you down hard.”

    We deserve better than this effort when the Caps are fighting for a playoff spot.

    I seem to remember last year when we were in a similar situation and we played Winnipeg for the division lead and we came out hard and fast and won which vaulted us into the playoffs.

    If you ask tomorrow no one has given up on the team or wants the team blown up. We’re allowed to be angry and upset after this effort.

  • Guest

    Make Alan May our coach

  • Dave

    Ha, it was clearly sarcasm… this core has never made it past the 2nd round of the playoffs, so why would we expect a struggling version of it to do any better?

  • 70Caps

    Do you honestly think ovechkin’s defence cancels out the 48 goals he’s scored this season. Without him, the caps would be far out of the playoffs.

  • Alex Hughes

    This team never has a net-front presence…..EVER

  • 70Caps

    The regular season exists too.

  • Roy Schue

    Unfortunately I did, and they sucked…First period they were so so, the second they totally blew and the third they were back to being so so for a little and then they blew again.

  • 70Caps

    Look towards the bottom of the comments at how many people are hating at me trying to have some hope. There are exactly 50 comments having to do with me trying to defend the team and oates when I am writing this.

  • Dave

    I suppose it does…

    Well, that’s a confusing way to end this argument!

  • Bilal

    I feel Oates is too soft. As much as I hate Joh TorteWHATEVERTHEFUQ kind of coaches that are just TOO pissed off, I think I hate having a coach that is too soft. Boudreau and Hunter weren’t jerks, but they at least told off the players when they bucked up. I don’t see Oates doing that (and even if he does, he does it in the most nicest way possible). Also, I think Oates was hired for the wrong reasons. I feel when he was hired, the main thought in mind was to improve Ovechkin and the PP. Mission success, only problem is well….everything else. I don’t mind seeing Oates be the assistant coach. Just, get someone who is both liked by the players, but knows when they deserve a slap to the face (kinda like a parent!) Also someone who can get this team to play Defense, because frankly, they can, there coach just doesn’t seem to help them do it though…….

  • Steven Lemmeyer

    This is what I think of your write up, Jack…http://media0.giphy.com/media/GCLlQnV7wzKLu/giphy.gif

  • Josh Carey

    I’ve read them all. It’s an hour after the game has ended. People have the right to be angry after this. They aren’t giving up, but we all deserve better, including you.

  • Cthulu’s Alarm Clock

    You bring up a good point in that it could be a kick in the pants for this team. But the problem isn’t the players/talent: it’s the coaching. You have players like Ovechkin, Backstrom, plus Grabo, Penner, Kuznetzov, & Wilson, but half of the players I just mentioned started tonight on the 4th line. Meanwhile, you have Jay Beagle (who has 25 career points. I’m not even talking about just this season: I’m talking his ENTIRE PROFESSIONAL CAREER). And I love Beagle, he’s a great defensive forward. But he has no business whatsoever on ANY team’s top line. Yet there he is, on a line with one of the greatest active NHL players (who himself hasn’t had a 5v5 point since February 28th)…

  • riggorules

    Fire Oates, right now. Good guy, but get lost fast.

  • Kevin

    I was citing Ovechkin’s lack of back pressure on that particular goal as being indicative of an overall much larger problem. They are playing truly sloppy hockey all around.

  • Darin

    Yeah I did, considering I was 10 years old in 08. “Fans like me” are the least embarrassing thing about this team buddy.

  • Thomas

    What was that guys name… Knubble!

  • Bilal

    theres a teddy joke somewhere in there……..I just can’t seem to find it…..

    NAH i got nothing

  • 70Caps

    Ovechkin cant control the whole team. I guess we should make Chimera the captain then? (Not that I don’t like him, but please, seriously, at least choose your words better than me)

  • RESmith

    Abysmal seems to be the word of the week! (Been guilty of using it twice now myself.)

  • Alex Hughes

    I mean this season

  • 70Caps

    Well they’re sure acting like it. (Though I do appreciate one reasonable voice.)

  • Kevin

    ??? Somebody else suggested that, not me. I think Ovechkin’s captaining abilities are just fine. As is his goal scoring this year. There are lots of issues going on that don’t involve Ovechkin. People are upset right now because the Caps aren’t playing well whether they win or lose. The coaches have the largest part to do with that.

  • Priscilla Villanueva

    It’s like they know I’m getting married in June and are sparing me additional stress. For this, I am grateful.

  • Myan

    Congratulations :)

  • https://twitter.com/Haddaweezy Holy_Cal

    I don’t buy that, Ward is solid and could play on any line.

  • Priscilla Villanueva

    Thanks, my dear. And I planned my wedding around playoffs. What a chump I am.

  • RESmith

    No one is turning on the team. It is just frustration. After the California trip it appeared this team might be finally headed to turning a corner and then the last week has happened. You have to admit that is disheartening.

  • Fellitov

    Mike Green fucking sucks… there, I said it

  • Hockey mom

    I said that several weeks ago…Playing it cool was not getting through to the players, yelling like a lunatic is not what I’m thinking, but showing some passion, telling guys what they are doing wrong and immediately telling them how to make corrections could have gone a long way.

    I liken his coaching style to the kid who grows up with strict parents that says they will never be like that, only to then have a kid that screws up because they didn’t give that child firm guidance.

    These guys don’t need a friend, they need a leader, most of these guys are barely legal to get into a bar!

  • A_Shoe

    You’re*. Also, I hear the Kool-Aid is delicious this time of year. I don’t drink it though, trying to cut down on the sugar.

  • Priscilla Villanueva

    Literally laughing out loud. I love this blog.

  • Thomas

    Lol I know Alex.. although we did get that big ol plug Penner whose been relegated to the 4th

  • Lawrence

    please don’t remind me

  • BennyP

    Man, this blows.

  • Ash

    This adorable bulldog puppy licking a baby is the only thing keeping me from dissolving into a pile of sadness and despair.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/maycie/nothing-is-sweeter-than-this-video-of-a-bulldog-puppy-kissin

  • A_Shoe

    And what’s sadder, is he’s probably our 3rd best defenseman.

  • Scott

    Amen. I wrote this under the Crosby bit during the game, but it’s worth repeating:

    The bell is tolling for the 2013-14 season….right…now. And you know what? I’m relieved. I was inconsolable during the Boston game despite excellent seats and good company, but I wrote it off as, OK, this is the hottest team in the Eastern Conference laying a beating on us, it happens, but if we can’t even put up a respectable fight against Dallas – as in not-playoff-caliber Dallas – then why even long for a playoff spot? So we can go down in four excruciatingly lopsided games to the Bruins in the first round? No thanks.

    I watched Yzerman hoist the Cup in DC in 1998 and despite the loss was just glad to be there, bought season tickets in ’99, and have counted myself among the faithful ever since. And although this is not, by a longshot, the worst team the Caps have put on the ice in the years since – in fact, because this isn’t a bad group of guys on the ice – I find myself, like everyone else here, marveling at organizational ineptitude so profound that I am actually being driven to look forward to baseball season. And I don’t even like baseball.

    So Dallas, 4-0 isn’t bad enough. Keep scoring. (NB: they listened.) Please. Make this game a spectacularly loathsome goodbye to a loathsome season. Have a great summer, RMNB – see you in the fall!

  • Bilal

    Its momments like this that make me want to take a cute and cuddly chubby little baby……………AND THROW A BRICK AT IT

    (kidding)

  • factoryofsadness

    whoa. ok the first 3 points are valid. The last one crossed the line. DO NOT talk smack about my boy Terrance. I will find you. And HUNT YOUR BALTIMORE ASS DOWN.

  • Bilal

    well said

  • Guest

    On a more serious note who saw that HIMYM Finale last night

  • Alex Hughes

    Glad somebody else thinks that

  • Jonah

    Let me clarify my commen about the C.
    It is in no way our “biggest problem”, it’s just a mix of emotion and a problem that I have been mulling over for the better part of 4 months.
    As the captain of my team this year, I know how much of an impact locker room presence before and after games can effect a teams moral. While I was one of the top scorers on the team, I wasn’t scoring flashy goals like OV, mostly grinding crash the net type goals. And I could tell how that motivated the team during tough stretches to up the intensity in big games.
    That type of on ice leadership is completely lacking from ovechkins game (and is not the type of player he is). All the best captains in the league: brown, Toews Crosby giroux, Callahan, worked hard in the trenches every game.
    The caps don’t have a fire underneath them every game, good leadership will insure effort, bad leadership will let effort slip away.
    I don’t know who I would give it to. If laugh were the way he was two years ago it would definitely be him, maybe WARDO or chimmer because they’re the only effective hockey players on that team.
    I disagree that a captain doesn’t mean anything besides talking to refs. As a player there are so many little things you do that aren’t notice when just watching on tv. It’s talking on the bench, being the first one on the line when coach calls a bag skate at practice.
    Also, penner.
    Great player, Oates fucked him over royally because why not.

  • Zach Evans

    Man what a crappy game to go to. No effort, not heart, no nothing. It was sad to watch from above as odd man rush after odd man rush, defensive lapse, after defensive lapse happened. I know booing the team is a touchy subject for fans, but me, who paid money and skipped school to go to the game for my birthday, I sure as hell booed. That was a pathetic excuse of a hockey game.

  • Eric Schulz

    To be fair, GMGM put together that horrendous defense.

  • JP

    Yep… just officially switched over to “Go Ducks” mode. It would serve Ted and GMGM right to see Gabby go the distance.

  • Yo8

    Ovi is not even going to get his 50 goals…

    http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9cla25Ymv1r9syt7.gif

  • Eric Schulz

    And Alzner and Carlson…

  • Diller M

    I want to thank Ted and the whole Caps organization for not making me regret the decision to forgo cable and not purchase gamecenter. This season has not nearly been as painful listening to Walton as it could have been watching. I popped in my earbuds at 1-0 they were out just 100 seconds later at 3-0. I would also like to thank Calle Jo and Oates for the 15 pounds I have lost by getting to take many many post loss walks.

    Most of all I want to thank RMNB and all of you readers and commenters who made this season fun, despite the disaster that we saw on the ice. I will be listening to see if Ovi gets to 50 but other then that I’m out *drops mike, walks off stage*

  • Eric Schulz

    If you want to blow it up and rebuild, don’t bother with the third line. Ward will come back to earth next year… Chimera will get older, and we know what Fehr is. I like him, but he’s not a guy you build around. He’s a nice complementary piece.

  • Eric Schulz

    Nope.

  • Diller M

    Philly is also only marginally better then we are, even with our horrible coach.

  • Eric Schulz

    PP is NOT awful when people cover Ovie. A) He will still get open for 2 seconds and make you pay, and B) it becomes a 4-on-3 and we are still good. The PP being bad today was a fluky blip.
    The rest… sure. PP being bad today sucked, horrible timing… but we can’t have a great PP all the time, it’ll go through rough patches. We need to be good at other dimensions of the game; it was bound to go through a rough patch at a horrible time, because there was never going to be a good time.

  • Jonathan Kenny

    Knuble could be a good assistant; teach them how to stand in front of the goalie and get ugly goals as a matter of course.

  • Diller M

    Are you 15? Just wondering…

  • Roy Schue

    You’re telling me you watched that game and felt everyone put a good effort in let alone their best effort “which should of been the case”

  • Diller M

    Lol he’s just a baby, let the pens have him

  • Diller M

    I hear Pittsburg has a pretty good squad witha good hard working Canadian boy as captain

  • Matt Root

    Cool elitist comment. You must be so much of a better person for being a long-time Caps fan. Jeez Darin, why weren’t you born years and years earlier so you could have been following the team longer.

  • Eric Schulz

    Honestly.. right now, the future is bright. Ovechkin is towards the tail-end of his prime, sure, but he’s still a PP beast; Backstrom is in his prime, so are Alzner and Carlson.. imagine them with a good defensive coach/system. Young players like Johansson (most seem to be out on him; I get it, but he’s talented and still young, he can still grow, and he’s cheap), Kuznetsov, Wilson, Burakovsky, Brown, Latta, Barber… on defense, Orlov has flashed and still has upside… our new GM will surely pair him with a defensive-minded d-man and avoid making the same mistakes that GMGM made with Green year after year. I mean, what if Green got to be paired with a guy like Reekie? We didn’t have Sergei Gonchar, did we? Nope, and it wasn’t because he was better than Green on defense. Madison Bowey looks good; Carrick has gotten a lot of experience this year; that can’t hurt his development, can it? Holtby is just starting his career, and he’s proven himself in the playoffs. We actually have cap room for once; we can easily see a future in which we bring back Grabovski.
    Imagine what the team will look like next year, with a new GM and new coaching staff…

  • Matt Root

    The brightside of prospects is the cookie-cutter response from GMGM all these years.

  • Jonah

    16. If it makes any difference

  • Eric Schulz

    No they don’t. Coaches who yell are stupid; players don’t need to be motivated to play well, they love the game, else they wouldn’t have played for their entire lives. Oates isn’t a bad coach because he doesn’t yell…

  • Sage Confucius

    I missed the game, but I don’t feel bad about it after watching the ‘highlights’. After the third goal I had to stop. So many turnovers and absolutely NO puck possession. It was sad to see an entire team completely and utterly lost.

  • Diller M

    He offered that he wanted to quit being a fan, just offering him some alternatives. Not elitist at all, I want all the fans we can get, just don’t threaten to jump when the s gets rough

  • Eric Schulz

    See, I don’t buy that at all… if you think GMGM sucks, or Oates sucks… or both… then clearly this team *could* do something with the right leadership. It’s not the core that sucks… again, as I’ve said many times before: add some defensemen who are all about defense and physicality. That’s really it. Some defense from the forwards, some faceoff winning, would be great too… but really, that’s the one ingredient we need. If we had a legit D-man to pair with Green on the 2nd pair and Orlov on the 3rd, we’re in the playoffs.

  • Matt Root

    How do you propose getting all these legit pieces while keeping all the good players? Someone going to give us quality players for our trash?

  • gustafsson16

    Not sure how Ovechkin gets a free pass. He’s played with no sense of urgency since flopping in Sochi and it’s a cancer to this team. The only reason he’s untradeable at this point is that albatross of a contract he has.

  • https://twitter.com/Haddaweezy Holy_Cal

    Don’t insult me by calling me baltimore anything, that place is a dump and if in some bizarro world the nationals existed and the orioles did not I would easily dawn the curly W and root for all three dc teams (currently the o’s are the only outlier). The point remains, nationals stadium does stupid little things like the cheering squad that are an affront to the nations pastime. What I really loathe is when the in game music director plays a clip of music when there’s two strikes, anyone with half a brain knows the count. But on the other hand I do enjoy the racing presidents, the nats have good traditions but I feel like they’re trying to appeal to people who don’t like baseball.

  • Eric Schulz

    I blame GMGM WAY more than Oates (as I have commented frequently)… I don’t fully disagree with what you’ve said, but again, I think the bigger issue is the 2nd defender on the 2nd pair, and the 2nd defender on the 3rd… if we had legit players to pair with Green and Orlov, we make the playoffs… doesn’t mean Oates is the best coach for this team or anything, but while the forwards are fine (now that Kuznetsov is here and Grabovski is back; again, a legit defense exists for Oates, regardless of how good/bad he is; none exists for GMGM), the defense is lacking.. if you want to argue that Oleksy would’ve been a fine partner for Orlov… I disagree. Of all the guys we have, yes, I would’ve chosen him, and I don’t know why Oates didn’t… but I think we need an upgrade on him there, honestly. I’d be fine with him as the first d-man up in case of injury.

  • Eric Schulz

    Carlyle sucks more than Oates. ALL SEASON Leafs’ fans have been complaining about how he uses his players, and how he refuses to play players who can actually play hockey; he uses TWO goons! He sucks; worse than Oates. Tortella is pretty clearly not an option either; the PP would not flourish under him, and it’s our only bright spot. Maybe our defense would improve, but if we can have only one bright spot while missing the playoffs, I’d take the PP; at least that way, Ovechkin can flourish. I’d MUCH rather have Oates, at least he has upside.

  • Pat Magee

    Definitely Laviolette time. I’m hopeful for next year….. Kuzya, Burakovsky, Grabo hopefully re-signs, Wilson in a more prominent role……. As long as Oates gets canned, I’m hopeful.

  • Matt Root

    He really shouldn’t get a total free pass but he’s the fan favorite, face of the franchise, and top goal scorer on the planet. Not justifying, just being realistic.

  • Eric Schulz

    It’s pretty rare to have the same lines together for more than a few games at a time. Guys get banged up, and few teams have good enough players that they won’t shake things up if somebody is playing particularly well or badly.

  • Diller M

    No difference, just playing a hunch

  • Catherine__M

    I had the opportunity to buy the seats I wanted this year. (well, “seat” as it was in standing room and I fly solo so I should use the singular). I have the income, had gotten a generous bonus at work etc but decided against it because gosh that is just still A LOT of money no matter how I look at it.

    Good thing, too! For two reasons: (1) that $2,000 wound up going to an unexpected medical expense (no joke: I was attacked by a rabid bat in my own living room. In the city. Had to get the infamously painful and expensive shots). (2) This team has been playing so badly, that I’m honestly thinking that the whole bat-attack-13-shots-2K-deductible thing looks like FUN. Because at least it’s a story.

  • Jonah

    If any of you missed Oates’ presser, here’s the gist of it.

  • Diller M

    Your bat story trumps my being bit by a penguin story! Totally worth the 2K!

  • Eric Schulz

    Free agency. There will be at least 10 legit partners for Green available for free… like there is every year. The problem isn’t acquiring them, the problem is GMGM identifying the weakness of the team (defense, NOT goalie) and addressing it.
    And, as I’ve said many times before.. I would offer up Johansson, Carrick, and a 2nd to the Isles for Frans Nielsen. I would’ve traded a 4th and 7th for Meszaros. I would’ve traded a 4th and 7th for Robidas. I would’ve traded a 4th for Weaver. I would not have made ALL three of those last 3 trades… but acquire Meszaros, put him with Green on 2nd pair; acquire Weaver, put him with Orlov on 3rd… Robidas would’ve been a legit addition, had we not been able to get either of the other two. There, a legit 6 NHL defenders. You’re welcome.

  • Diller M

    Def not exact same situation. Don’t forget this will only be the first missed post season in the last 7

  • Matt Root

    Sounds great in theory but this class of FA’s shows no quality defensemen. Not being rude, it’s just honestly one of the worst FA “classes” in a while. Especially if the current or next GM decides to hold on to over-valued bottom six players.

  • Diller M

    You will be here posting Oates hate right along side all of your RMNB pals:)

  • Matt Root

    still would be awful defensively but, yeah, we’d score more. If the Caps are going to lose I’d rather them put up points.

  • Matt Root

    He is. And, as you said, that’s the real tragedy.

  • Diller M

    Realistically we need 11 or 12 of the last 14 to get in. Tonight’s game was a must win with Chicago, STL and TBL coming up. It’s possible, but they seem to be getting worse not better. You understand if people give up to insulat against the pain. That said I’m saving my swan song until we are officially eliminated

  • Matt Root

    Sad part is, I’d be fine if they did go that route. They aren’t surrounding Nicky or Ovi with the pieces/staff needed to be legitimate contenders so it’s honestly a waste. Especially if they choose to not to centerpiece their play around the best goal scorer on the planet. Meh, would hate to see him go but hate seeing him apart of such a dysfunctional organization,

  • GuestZ

    In your rant, why would you let Mike Green get by unscathed? 2 on 0 was cause he wasn’t paying attention, and then stopped skating where he had a clear shot to disrupt the dude’s stop-n-shoot.

    Other than the M. Green omission, I’m 100% with you.

  • Catherine__M

    I am intregued by this penguin story. Do elaborate. And yep! Avoiding a guaranteed grizzly end…worth it! Total cost was $10,000 so yay insurance!

  • Eric Schulz

    Matt Greene, Scott Hannan, Andrej Meszaros, Henrik Tallinder… Kyle Quincey maybe, Matt Niskanen, perhaps Nikita Nikitin or Matt Hunwick? Mark Fraser and Mike Weaver (3rd pairing)… There are guys out there… but I have no doubt that GMGM will NOT sign any of them (hopefully because he’s no longer our GM… we’ll see).
    Imagine if we would’ve traded a 3rd and 6th for Meszaros, and a 4th for Weaver… we could roll out:
    Penner – Backstrom – Ovechkin
    Kuznetsov – Grabovski – Brouwer
    Chimera – Fehr – Ward
    Johansson – Brown – Wilson
    Alzner – Carlson
    Meszaros – Green
    Orlov – Weaver
    Halak
    Holtby
    How much better do you feel about those lines vs our defensive pairings now? (A – Oates doesn’t seem to want to put Penner on the top line like he should be… but then it’d be a coaching issue, and you’d be fine with ripping Oates; for now, the GM position is a much bigger problem area than the coach, B – I’d also want to acquire a faceoff man… send a 5th to Anaheim for Steckel, or somebody like that, and have the 4th be Johansson – Steckel – Wilson, w/e… C – we’d be in a much better place had we kept Perreault too, for the top-6 when Grabovski was out, but not sure how we fit him in now…)

  • Diller M

    Torts is Hunter zzzzzzzzzzzzz. Partzzzzzzzzzzzz 2 zzzzzzzzzzzz

  • Matt Root

    Ehh, wouldn’t say that at all. It’s just shifted from a place where fans discussed the caps players, system, staff, possible changes, games, etc to re-hashing the recap in their own words to get those almighty up votes. Very rarely do you find constructive opinions with realistic options. Instead it is “This guy sucks. Lets trade -Struggling player(s)- and keep our best.” Cause I’m sure any team is just chomping at the bit for guys such as Laich/Brouwer/MoJo/Green. Or the mantra of over half of the season being “Fancy stats tell me this team isn’t as bad as they’ve played” to, now, “ALL HOPE IS LOST THE TEAM ISN’T GOOD.”

  • GuestZ

    However many it takes to guarantee Oates and McPhee get fired asap.

  • Eric Schulz

    He’s the most dominant payer in the NHL. You don’t trade him because the team around him can’t cover up for his faults. You realize he’s not good defensively, and then assemble 6 defenders who can play defense… you know what? Even without Ovie, do that.

  • http://plus.google.com/+jayrushing Jay Rushing

    I still say we show up to Verizon Center and hand out oatmeal packets to throw in protest. Get it? OAT-MEAL?!? Okay, I’ll see myself out.

  • Eric Schulz

    Doesn’t mean I’m wrong. The problem is surrounding the talent already there with the right complementary talent; we are 9th in the East right now, we aren’t that far away… GMGM has proven he can’t finish the job, but let’s say we get a great coach and a great GM before the playoffs start… how long until we are legit contenders? I say, next year.
    (Obviously, I’m saying we miss the playoffs, immediately fire Oates, hire a new GM, he gets a coach… and then they are in place before next season starts. The new GM adds 2 or 3 NHL caliber defensive defenseman… adds a depth C who can win a high percentage of his faceoffs… then, at the deadline, he’s looking for a 3rd line C who can do for us what Jarrett Stoll did for LA – unless Laich rebounds – and *maybe* a top-4 defensive-minded defenseman, if none of the guys we sign pan out… it’s a relatively weak FA crop, we can definitely add a legit 3rd pairing guy, but we may need to trade for the guy opposite Green on the 2nd pair.)

  • Diller M

    How can you have a problem with an owner who has put more into Hockey in DC than anyone would have imagined 15 years ago. Sports is about statistics and most of the times your team is gonna lose, but as long as the commitment from the ownership is there, then you need to give them a break, and the second highest payroll in the sport is commitment. Not to mention, middle 33% in ticket prices. I really have a problem with the Leonsis hate. He saved Chinatown and helped kick start the downtown revitalization, the team sucks right now but he is NOT Snyder and doesnt deserve the grief. Aim your ire at Dick Patrick if you must, but even then It’s probably misplaced.

  • Matt Root

    Matt Greene is a pylon. Seriously. Being here next to LA where I’m stuck visiting Ducks and Kings games for the whole live hockey experience, Matt Greene has regressed drastically. Hannan is 35. I don’t like Meszaros but that doesn’t mean shit haha. Tallinder is 35. Kyle Quincey is Detroits worst Dman.

    I don’t know. I just see the the marginally good Dmen of this class are going to be over-valued due to the lack of youth coupled with talent of this class. I do agree with you that there were trades this deadline time that were extremely cheap and it frustrated me that the Caps failed to do so. Not saying MacDonald is some elite Dman but that was such a low-cost deal considering the caps have indicated a win now approach.

    Dude, I miss me some Steckel and, of course, Matty P. I really like building through FA AFTER building through the draft which is what the Caps have done. So I totally am for your idea of snagging pieces in order to improve. It just appears to be difficult with the current contracts on the team and only one buyout remaining. Hopefully they pull off something beneficial because, as you said, our d pairings need work.

  • Diller M

    Well Peter to be fair to the Caps, the Stars had the extra motivation of playing for a playoff spot.

  • Matt Root

    No it doesn’t mean you’re wrong at all. For the longest time GMGM has stuck by that theory of building through prospects but eventually those prospects grow up and need veterans to help them along the way. That and most prospects never reach their alleged potential.

    But it appears we’re on the same level of thinking in that needing complimentary pieces in order to reach maximum potential is where the Caps are lacking. I took your mention of prospects the wrong way. My bad, Eric.

  • Chris Cerullo

    We also never use to sit back in a shell with a lead. Always tacked on more and more.

  • Matt Root

    haha absolutely right. Turtling never works. Every time the Caps snag a two goal lead I just get all of these images of Hunter hockey that makes me sick. But what do we know? Winning the Presidents Trophy isn’t nearly as good as fringe playoff team in a weak conference and a weaker division.

  • Eric Schulz

    I’ve heard bad things about Quincey… that’s why I said “maybe.” I thought he was good the few times I’ve seen him, but I’ve seen very little, relatively…
    Greene, same deal as far as sample size, except I’d heard lots of good things.. he looks really good when I watch him though, and I’ve seen him a handful of games this year (unlike Quincey, who I’ve seen only a handful of throughout his career).
    Same with Hannan… I know he’s older, but he’s looked really good this year the 5 or so games I’ve seen of him.
    Meszaros is the guy I’d target, honestly.. I’d like him on 2nd pair, Hannan on 3rd…
    I agree, it’s a weak crop… GMGM deserves a lot of blame for not addressing it in years prior… but still, there are some guys out there, and we should be able to make some low-risk additions…
    And, as I’ve mentioned other places… it’s not that I am not willing to trade our players… I mean, the young talent should help us net NHL players from rebuilding teams. I think Johansson, Carrick, a 2nd, and Galiev should get us Frans Nielsen from the Isles (we probably are overpaying… the first two ought to get it done, IMO, but I feel like most people who talk about trades involving their teams overvalue their players, so I’m trying to overcompensate for that), and Forsberg should’ve netted us a top-4 defenseman. Still mind-bottling to me that he was moved for a fucking forward.. a winger, at that. I’m not sure he alone would’ve gotten it done… but a package built around him should’ve done it… something like Forsberg, Sanford, Kundratek. That ship has sailed… but IMO, Carrick is definitely expendable (I like the guy as a person, and he probably has a nice future, but we have enough puck-movers… Carlson and Orlov are the future of the team, not sure how Carrick cracks that… with Green now, I think we are fine with Schmidt as the next man up), Johansson is young, cheap, and talented… surely there’s a rebuilding team out there that likes him and could see him blossoming as a 2nd line C in the right situation. I could easily see us getting back a Jarrett Stoll-type 3rd C and an Andrew Ference-type D for Johansson, Carrick, Sanford, Kundratek, Galiev, and a 2nd. Not sure what the specifics would be, but those are nice pieces, and a team that is rebuilding would value at least some of them, all young and cheap.

  • Matt Root

    Big up vote for that post. Agree on your trade scenarios and would love that Stoll 3C-esque player.

  • BPThomas

    Or wise beyond your years?

  • Matt Root

    Also I, like you, have no issue trading away some of the undesirables + promising prospects in order to receive an established player. Doesn’t bother me one bit.

  • Eric Schulz

    I thought Laich *was* that in his prime.. now, I have hope that he’ll mostly return to form (he seemed to be rebounding before the surgery… and now he’ll have more than the offseason to recover, since he got surgery early; I am an optimist, of course, but there’s reason to hope, at least)… but I’d like a 3rd of Laich – THAT DUDE – Wilson next year… and were I in charge, I’d target Frans Nielsen of the Isles… I saw you comment further down that too many people want to trade guys that no team would want. I am of the same mind; it’s annoying when people want to trade expensive, bad players that nobody would want. BUT, if you are the Isles, you HAVE to know you are in rebuild mode (right?), so… Nielsen is 29 already, by the time you are ready to compete, he’s what? 33? 34? I’ll give you a 23 year old Johansson (again, many are down on him, but he’s cheap, and he’s flashed some talent… at 23 years old, you could put him back at center and put guys like Grabner, Okposo, Bailey, and/or Clutterbuck on his wing. Or, you could have him stay at wing, and your top 2 Cs will be Tavares and Strome. Johansson isn’t as good as Nielsen, obviously, but he could kind of fill his role, and as young as he is, he still has room to grow… he’ll be better in 3-5 years, whereas Nielsen will probably get worse), and a 19 year old Carrick who already has 30 NHL games under his belt. That seems like it ought to be a nice foundation for the Isles; Johansson replaces Nielsen, and Carrick replaces MacDonald… maybe those are both downgrades, but they have more upside (and, of course, MacDonald isn’t part of the trade)… if need be, we can throw in a few picks and prospects… as I said, a 2nd and Galiev seems like it would/should clinch that deal… unless they don’t want Galiev, it depends on what prospect type they want. Maybe they want a more defensive-minded defenseman; swap out Galiev with Kundratek, say. Seems like we could get that done.

  • Maria Ovechkina

    Ovechkin has to go

  • Eric Schulz

    I really think Johansson should be desirable trade bait to a rebuilding team. He’s been inconsistent, but he’s only 23! And $2 million per year isn’t too bad; I remember him being a very solid two-way forward his first year or two, and he’s flashed some nice stick skills. He won’t get you a great player straight-up, of course, but if you target the right player (a guy who’s 29 – 31 years old, on a rebuilding team that either doesn’t think they can resign him, or thinks he’ll be regressing when they are ready to be back in contention) he ought to be a large part of a package.
    Of the prospects, you can really refer to the top-20 posted on here not that long ago. I really want to keep Barber, Burakovsky, Bowey… all the others are available… there are still some nice ones, like Latta, Schmidt, Stephenson, Wey, Kundratek, Sanford… I mean, I’d like to keep others, of course, but you have to give to get… I wouldn’t trade Latta AND Stephenson, maybe, because you want to have a guy you can develop into that 3rd line two-way centerman, but you can acquire one or the other… I’d like Wey, of course, since we have so few defensive prospects like him, but if he’s part of a package to acquire an NHL top-4 partner for Green, he’s available.

  • Lance Perrier

    I’m a big Ovie fan, but he is NOT the most dominant player in the NHL. He is the best sniper yes, but he isn’t a play maker, he rarely scores on the rush, and he gets 50% of his goals from the same spot. He coasts back down the ice when coming back, and almost never beats anyone one on one anymore, and yes I watch most games. I think he has potential to be so much better, but he only has half the desire of the games truely most dominant players. Nobody would love to see a more rounded game from Ovie more than I would, but it isn’t happening any time soon. Maybe he should spend a summer working out with Crosby to see what real prep it takes to get to the top. And I’m no Crosby fan, but he puts in the effort because he knows his place in the history of the game.

  • JenniferH

    Aww, thanks. Yeah, cuz, I’m a Caps fan.

  • JenniferH

    Exactly. We’re still #1 or #2 in the league. Our PP is impressive if nothing else, dangit!

  • Roy Schue

    Yeah I’m watching the game at 1-0, go take a piss and bam it’s 3-0…WTF

  • lonestar21

    Don’t have to call you. Did you forget about the Senators ?Won a World Series and have several players in the hall of fame .

  • Roy Schue

    He cares….about filling seats and making money

  • Justin

    I think we might have some difficulty resigning Grabo regardless of whether there’s a coaching/GM change or not. No coaching change signifies a potential relapse to the staunch rigidity of Oates ineffective “system,” and a regime change signifies instability and the possibility of a rebuilding phase. A more Cup-competitive team with extra cap room might just steal him away, I honestly can’t fathom what would hold him here at this point other than Ovi’s friendship.

  • Eric Schulz

    It’s a good team, he’s established himself here, and we can offer him the salary he wants. I can’t imagine he’s not aware of the talent on the team, and how close we could be to competing, if only we added a piece or two. There aren’t a lot of teams that are locks to be contenders year after year; we could easily be one next year with very few tweaks. We can offer him a better position than any other “contender” would; ice time, responsibility, money, teammates, not having to move… only team that has a spot for him is Chicago, and they don’t have the money. Is he going to bump Patrice Bergeron to the 2nd line? Malkin? Zetterberg?

  • Eric Schulz

    If you don’t think he’s the most dominant player in the game, then you aren’t watching enough hockey. Name ONE player in the NHL who can take over the game and bend it to his will more than Ovie.
    Also, Ovie’s a great, great passer. Not top-5, but definitely top-20. He just doesn’t have linemates who can convert for him. Johansson and Backstrom… yeah.
    Crosby ALSO sucks at defense, by the way.

  • Roy Schue

    Thanks for the link, I hadn’t seen that yet. Interesting read

  • Justin

    The fact of the matter is that whatever system is in place right now isn’t working. How can we possibly be satisfied with where this team is right now? I understand that McPhee has done a lot to bring this team to the point where we as fans now EXPECT to be in the playoff hunt each year, but the team has been in a steady decline since 2011. Sure, we’ve managed to find ourselves in the Playoffs briefly since then, but can you really argue that the quality of play has gotten better or even remained at a consistent level?

    Last season ended with a gut-wrenching 5-0 playoff loss that had us Caps fans fuming in the aftermath, but we were assuaged by the promise of a full season of Oates’ leadership and systems to come. Now after witnessing that nearly full season of often “mind-bottling” decisions, can we honestly say that there has been progress? Are you happy with the current state of this team and where they are headed?

    With that said, I bear no grudge against George McPhee or Adam Oates as people or professionals, it’s simply that what they’ve created is not good enough. They tried their best, but it’s just not working and there hasn’t been any indication that another season of the same thing will produce better results. This is a results-driven industry, and right now we are not capable of producing the results we want. Changes must be made.

  • Owen Johnson

    Well either way, they won’t be playing much hockey in the summer.

  • Owen Johnson

    I’d like a new Gm sure, but I wouldn’t be PISSED necessarily if he’s back.
    Oates on the other hand….

  • Owen Johnson

    No, the Skins are WAAAY more inept than the Caps. Leonsis and GMGM don’t deserve 1/10th of the hate that Snyder and whatever boot-licking toadies he employs deserve.

  • Owen Johnson

    He wasn’t on the 4th line tonight, was he?

  • Axel

    and people were complaining about me yesterday when I said the same thing before the game….

  • Shaun Phillips

    Caps have one of the best 3rd lines in the league. We don’t need more forwards, we have plenty; Oates just doesn’t use them correctly. We need Dmen and a new system.

  • Shaun Phillips

    He’s also been paired with Jay “Offensive Dynamo” Beagle for the past few weeks. I watched ~10 minutes last night and counted 2 or 3 times where Beagle dumped the puck in/turned it over, while he had Grabo and Ovi with him. Ovi needs possession, Beagle is not a possession guy.

  • Harjot Singh

    He has never spoke up in the locker room during games. He doesn’t even go into the locker room during games………

  • Harjot Singh

    Joe.B for 2015-2016

  • Shaun Phillips

    I know we normally argue a ton on here, but you nailed it. I’d try and buy out/dump Laich as well. As much as we all love his baby blues, he’s not worth 4.5 mil.

    The reason I blame Oates as well as GMGM is the forward lines you proposed are almost exactly what we could have if Oates would deploy the guys correctly (instead of Penner on 4, Beagle on 1, etc). I know this doesn’t fix the defensive problems, but hopefully it’d fix some of the 5v5 futility.

  • Shaun Phillips

    As much as I’d like to see him with the Wings, they don’t have the cap room either and have way too many young forwards trying to get into the lineup. He wouldn’t bump Z to the 2nd, Babs would just move Z to the wing (like he does with Datsyuk) with Grabo centering.

  • Shaun Phillips

    Tigers, 4 WS check, too many to name check, and 120 years check. :)

  • Shaun Phillips

    I wouldn’t wish Quincey upon my worst enemy (ok, maybe the Pens or Hawks can have him). He’s a big body who plays small, makes horrible decisions, and is a pylon. Caps already have Erskine for this role.

  • holtbysaidno

    I’ve noticed a recent trend when the caps aren’t backed up by the power of the suit of the night…

    Trying to cling to playoff hopes here, but…

    http://youtu.be/dsx2vdn7gpY

  • serpent

    Screw this–I’m going to go watch the Bears and the Orioles.

  • Shaun Phillips

    That’s as direct a shot as you will ever see a player make. And if one of the guys is coming out and saying that, they’ve likely discussed amongst themselves and given Brouwer the “okay” to say something public.

  • Justin

    For our sake, I hope you’re right. After watching this season and with the faint possibility of both Oates and McPhee remaining on, I would argue that nothing at this point is a given. And let’s not forget that the salary cap is speculated to increase about $7 mil.

  • Hockey mom

    Well, at least the mystery of the Verizon Center birds has been solved…they are hatching from the eggs the Caps have been laying! UGH!

  • Rhino40

    I peeked at the Weyland Yutani Out-of-town Scoarboard.

    …which would seem to indicate that the only thing standing between us and a slimy gruesome death is…..Nashville?

  • Rhino40

    Intriguing, but no. It is already well established that what works for the other 29 teams in the NHL does not work here because #reasons.

  • https://twitter.com/Haddaweezy Holy_Cal

    I’d prefer we get a new GM just so there can be a fresh set of eyes to come in and take a look. I’d also like to see a GM hire his coach. It seems to me like McPhee and Oates are at odds in terms of personel usage, we didn’t acquire Erat, or Penner for that matter to play in the bottom 6 and/or be healthy scratches.

  • ringtail

    What is that silvery tinkling sound … could it be laughter? Coming from Anaheim? Good luck to Bruce and Perry in the playoffs. Wish you were here…

  • Myan

    He could go to Vancouver. They have plenty of cap as it is and there’s a good chance that they’ll move Kesler in the summer. I don’t want Grabo to leave but if there’s no coaching change, I don’t see him staying.

  • CoachyWoachy

    Pavel Datsyuk

  • J A

    I heard it had a very disappointing ending… Oh wait, I was watching the Caps game.

  • Veloj

    I’m starting to think this 70Caps person is actually George McPhee pleading for his job.

  • Eric Schulz

    One of the best 3rd lines in the league? Yeah, definitely a top-20 3rd line.

  • Eric Schulz

    Nope. Datsyuk doesn’t take over games the way Ovie does. Take somebody who’s never seen hockey to a Red WIngs – Caps game, and ask him who the best player on the ice is; the answer will be Ovie.

  • Karl Merriam

    Bergeron is on the 2nd line in Boston

  • Shaun Phillips

    You have a 20+ goal scorer and two guys that will finish in the 15-20 range probably. How many 3rd lines can boast that? They tilt the ice in the Caps favor and draw penalties. I’d say that’s a pretty successful line. Would it be better if we had a true center there? Of course, but given what they’re working with, I’d say they’re having a good amount of success for a 3rd line.

  • Shmoo

    Fire the GM, coaches or team. All of the above also an acceptable choice.
    This was the first season since the pre-lockout sellout where I never felt we had a chance, stopped watching every game on TV or feeling like attending was worth the effort and cost.

  • Eric Schulz

    Well, Vancouver is CLEARLY in a worse place than we are…

  • Eric Schulz

    Yes, I agree; Oates isn’t using his forward lines correctly. I’ve said before, he is defensible because we *didn’t* have those forward lines for the vast majority of the season, and even if we did, our D doesn’t look remotely playoff-caliber; to me, it’s not that Oates is great, but that GMGM is putting him in a bad position, which he’s done to our coaches for the last decade. I can’t worry about anything else until we get a new GM.
    And as I’ve said before: Laich is a very valuable player for us. If he could rebound, then he really complete our forward lines (I really want a 3rd line two-way centerman, as I’ve said before; Laich, in his prime, is just about exactly what I want). There’s reason for optimism, given his play shortly before his surgery, and also his long offseason to recover. I think we have more than enough money next season to resign Grabovski, resign Penner, sign a defensive d-man, and still have something like $6 or $7 million to play with, allowing us to make a trade at the deadline for a top-4 defenseman (given the free agent crop, the FA we add is likely a high-end 3rd pairing partner for Orlov). The FOLLOWING year, when Kuznetsov, Johansson, and Holtby will demand raises, that’s when you need to cut Laich is he hasn’t rebounded. I don’t think that we really will sweat his contract next year (it’s a lot, I know, but I think his potential value is worth it next year, because I don’t think it really hamstrings our ability to improve; we won’t know until next year, of course, but right now, I think we’re fine.
    Also, I’m not saying we’ll be able to resign Grabovski, or that Penner would want to say, I’m just saying that we’ll have the MONEY to resign them.)

  • Eric Schulz

    I meant *from* the 2nd line (*to* the 3rd), of course… my mistake.

  • Myan

    And yet they’re only 2 points off us in a more difficult conference & division. They’ve also been without Burrows and 1/2 of their primary offensive pair (Sedins) for a significant chunk of the season. Also without Edler for about 20 games. I’d say that we’re on par but Vancouver has about $14.5m in cap space today and we have less than $600k.

  • gustafsson16

    Can he take over a game and bend it to his will? Yes, we’ve all seen it many times. The problem is, he isnt. Im in complete agreement over the deployment of Beagle with him – clearly it doesnt help. That being said, the great players find a way to still be great, regardless of who their linemates are. Ovechkin has -1- even strength goal since Sochi (2/28 vs. Florida). When he is playing as we all know he can (and has before) then yes, he’s easily the most dominate player in hockey. But that version of Ovechkin has not been seen in awhile. How does a goal scorer of his calibur fail so terribly in the shootout? I realize its just a skill competition 50/50 thing but to me its clear he’s playing with no confidence, sense of urgency, or mojo (and I dont mean 90).

  • Myan

    They’re only 2 pts off us and they are in a much more difficult division in a tougher conference. They were without 1/2 of their primary offensive duo (Sedins) for a good chunk of the season and Burrows missed about 20 games. They were without Edler during a crucial juncture of their season. I’d say that they’re on par with us right now but they also have $14.5m in cap space today and we have $57k. That’s fifty seven thousand.

  • Troy

    Honestly, making the playoffs would be WORSE for this team because everyone from front office to 4th line (barring a few players) really needs to go. This year should have been a pawn of rebuild but instead we just wasted a possible 50 goal season and gained NOTHING from it…

  • Troy

    as upset as I was about the caps’ season, Trailer Park Boys always makes me smile….

  • Diller M

    I love “we weren’t ready!” ” we were just here at Verizon practicing and the stars just showed up and demanded a game! We did our best, but we just didn’t expect to have to play tonight.”

  • 70Caps

    Watch it, or I’ll have Oleksy on you.

  • Eric Schulz

    We’ll have much more than that though; it’s not like that’s the amount we have to sign free agents in the offseason. The cap’ll go up, contracts will expire… we’ll be fine.
    The Canucks don’t look to me like a team ready to contend. I think they are mired in mediocrity; I’m not terribly familiar with their prospect pool, but beyond Nicklas Jenson, I don’t think they have much help coming soon… I think one other dude they acquired recently, I’m probably thinking of Horvat though. The Caps, as bad as things look right now, are about 3 or 4 moves away from contention, and 2 of those are easy: new GM, new coach.

  • Eric Schulz

    Yeah, Gretzky wasn’t light out in shootouts and penalty shots either; Hendricks was really good. You can’t look at that as having any impact on the type of goal-scorer a guy is. It helps, sure, but it’s not like more confidence would equal more shootout goals… he just isn’t great at it.

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  • Justin
  • Eric Schulz

    Just the fact that his agent said “We’ll see” seems bad to me. It didn’t even say something like “he likes the city/his teammates/etc,” although of course it could’ve been said just not reported. But again, I think the team has the talent to contend right away; we need to make the right moves in the front office and free agency, but it’s not like we need to make moves that couldn’t be done, or will be very difficult, like needing a top pair defenseman and a starting goalie, or something. We just need to supplement our guys with secondary talent: again, I like adding a 3rd line two-way center to anchor that line, a 2nd pair DFD to partner with Green, and a 3rd pair DFD to partner with Orlov… we don’t even need that much, honestly. Those are the 3 moves I would want to make, but really only the 2nd is necessary to contend, in addition to, of course, new front office (GMGM, probably coach; I really don’t know about Oates. I’ve seen enough from GMGM, more than enough, but Oates… I would really like to talk to him to figure out why he’s doing what he’s doing. I wonder if a better GM could get him to fix his roster problems/lineup combinations. I’m really not sure what his thinking is, so I don’t know if he’s stubborn, stupid, just has a blindspot, or some combination. I wonder if the right GM could get him to realize *why* what he’s doing is wrong). Obviously turnover isn’t a great sign, so that may scare Grabovski off, but I do feel like we should be an attractive mix of playing time, teammates, money, and at least the talent to contend. Not sure how he feels of course, but I can’t imagine he thinks the talent isn’t there…

  • Justin

    I agree, it could also be posturing for leverage as Grabo is coming off an injury-plagued contract year. This team has talent but it lacks an identity. I feel as if everything Oates has implemented this year has been an experiment in hockey philosophy… the obsession with handedness!!! What other team handcuffs themselves with these kinds of restrictions? And yet, Oates expects players to be flexible enough to produce regardless of their linemates, as if the strength of the system can make Ovi-Beagle as productive as Ovi-Backstrom.

    I feel like GMGM has painted us into a corner with the hiring of Oates because there’s no graceful way to fire a decorated member of the Capitals Alumni. But honestly, Oates (and Calle Johannson for that matter) just don’t have the credentials or the experience necessary to be at the helm of an NHL team, it seems more likely that the hiring of Oates was based more on the narrative of “Caps legend coming back to coach his former team.” I look to the 2011 Kings and the hiring of Daryl Sutter mid-season to show that the installation of a new coach/new system can breathe life into a team that’s flailing, and that’s exactly what it’s going to take to prove to Grabo and other available free agents that we’re not locked into our own delusions.

    I mean, you simply wouldn’t sign a contract at a job if you didn’t believe in where the company was headed and you disliked your immediate supervisor. In plain terms, that’s how I view the Grabo situation.

  • Eric Schulz

    Well… the thing is, MOST times when a GM is fired/let go, the new GM installs his own coach, so that helps. It could be that Grabovski sees the turnover (new GM, new coach) and thinks “too much turnover” and bails… but he *certainly* bails if we don’t bring in a new front office. So, I hope that we replace GM because we need to, and that probably results in a new coach, which I’m fine with. So, hopefully Grabovski sees the talent on the team and we can bring him back. We’ll see.