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If — for some crazy reason– the Capitals choose not to retain the services of Adam Oates after this season, they’re going to have to find a replacement.

That has got me worried. I don’t want the organization to have to go through a lengthy and expensive search for The Right Guy For The Job. I don’t want them to waste precious days and weeks hunting down an experienced coach who knows the value of puck possession and how to optimize high-end scoring talent.

So, to save time, RMNB has compiled this list of former Capitals players who already have a bunch of red clothes and stuff and they probably already have directions to Kettler programmed into their GPS.

You’re welcome, guys. Don’t overthink it. Just grab one of these dudes and watch the Cups pour in.

Head Coach Matt Bradley

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As a player: He bled for this team. Literally. And often. Matt has some kind of skin condition I think. He was actually a decent bottom-six forward on a good contract, adored by fans and teammates alike. I miss him.

As a coach: Bench Boss Matt “Bloody” Bradley will rule his team with an iron fist. Just kidding, he’ll be a total teddy bear. He’d be firm with the stars, congenial with the vets, and he’ll have a soft spot for the grinders. If anyone can get a big game out of the fourth liners, it’s Brads.

Head Coach Chris Simon

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As a player: Chris Simon was the scariest MFer ever to wear Caps red and white blue and bronze. Once he activated Wonder Twins powers with Adam Oates in 99-00, Simon led the team in both goals and penalty minutes. Then some stuff happened and he stopped.

As a coach: He won’t be much of a talker, but the players will do exactly what he says. No one wants to piss him off.

Head Coach Jim Carey

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As a player: Came out of nowhere to become the best goalie in the land. Returned to nowhere with a pile of money like two years later.

As a coach: The J.D. Salinger of hockey coaches, Carey will lead the team to the conference finals in his first season before becoming a recluse. In his final season, Carey will coach from home, Skyping in for games and doing all his interviews over WhatsApp.

Head Coach Rod Langway

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As a player: The Secretary of Defense won two Norris Trophies before you were born and basically made the Washington Capitals a franchise worth watching in the first place. Langway is the best. He’s like your dad’s buddy from high school, and he’s in town for the weekend, and he wants to take you bowling and get you ripped on a few pitchers of Schlitz.

As a coach: He’s been coaching in the minors off-and-on for almost twenty years, but it hasn’t stuck. He’d be the Caps’ first coach who’d try to do the whole job without leaving his seats in the lower bowl.

Head Coach Esa Tikkanen

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As a player: He took over 1900 shots in his 13-year career, but the only one anyone ever talks about is the one that went wide.

As a coach: He’ll miss the Glebe Road exit for Kettler and will never be heard from again.

Head Coach Michael Nylander

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As a player: A talented vet center for the improving Caps of the late oughts, Nylander had one minor flaw: he was uncoachable. Not even a little. When the scoar-moar-goals Caps needed end-to-end rushes, Nylander preferred to float around in neutral like a slightly malevolent butterfly. Then something happened with his contract that I still don’t understand, and now he’s gone.

As a coach: He’ll make Dale Hunter’s indifferent offense look like Order 666. Also, he’ll demand that his son play on the top line. Also also, he’ll be really hard to fire.

Head Coach Kevin Kaminski

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As a player: A fan favorite for fighting dudes bigger than he was, Kaminski took a lot of beatings in his too-short professional career. If you can’t find your pizza slicer, he’s a good guy to have around.

As a coach: Clean, legal hits shall not stand under the Kaminski administration. He’s got one rule: everybody fights, no one quits. Welcome to the Washington Roughnecks.


What former Caps player do you want to see behind the bench? Please don’t name anyone with NHL coaching experience; that’d be stupid.

 
  • Andrew Merewitz

    I was hoping to see me some Rico Fata

  • Joe Fox

    Assuming GMGM is still picking… Is Marco Sturm still playing? Maybe if Corvo hangs it up this year he could come down and coach.

  • PucktotheHead

    GMGM is salivating at this list. Good job boys.

  • Myan

    Oh for the love of God if we go with some bozo rookie coach I am going to lose my mind! Can’t wait until the hammer drops on Monday…there will be blood!

  • Ben Reed

    Head Coach Esa Tikanen/Rob Corddry.

  • Alex

    Head Coach Mike Knuble! Is he still playing?

  • Andrew Pang

    It’s all about Reggie Savage. You can thank me later

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    He is not! I think he’s in Michigan with his family.

  • http://twitter.com/1bscarbro Benjamin Scarbro

    Does Calle Johansson’s coaching “experience” count?

  • Anthony Elworthy/scrubversive

    Head Coach Iafrate. Players are only allowed slapshots and one-timers. No wrist shots, tip-ins, snap shot, backhands, or any other dinky shots allowed. They’re not manly enough.

  • Bobby

    Ok let’s just get it over with already! Do like beer league hockey and make Ovi the player/coach combo.

  • Lynn Christian Regert

    esa tikkanen also scored 2 goals for the wings during the stanley cup finals….we don’t need to know how to score on ourselves!! Maybe Langway could make everyone play without helmets to avoid that unsightly helmet hair!!

  • JenCo

    Alan May didn’t make the cut?

  • Tim Pyle

    Head Coach Martin Erat!

  • Smed Baildog

    Does it have to be “former?” Can’t we just name Ovi on-ice head coach?

  • Jon A

    Alan May. I’m pretty sure he has no coaching experience.

  • Topher Gee

    Knuble, Just to see a comeback tour from the knights.

  • Shaun Phillips

    Best/worst random pandora music selection ever. As I pull up the Tikanen miss video, Filter-“Hey Man Nice Shot” comes on.

  • Shaun Phillips

    How would they decide between Brouwer Power and the Knights?? Tough call.

  • Abhi

    Because I’m evil; Head Coach Jaromir Jagr.

  • Jon A

    Actually, he’d be the the perfect coach for at least Ovie. I’d say with Bondra as his assistant. They’d get Ovie a few moar goals from the Ovie Spot.

  • Stanley Cup in Washington

    This is not funny.
    This could very well happen and it would be another colossal failure like Oates has been.
    As long as Ted owns this team, we will always be a joke because of marketing based decisions like this

  • FireGMGM&Oates

    Yeah, this is no laughing matter.

  • Dino

    Go IceGators!

  • Feds91

    Scary

  • Topher Gee

    Spin-off maybe?

  • TowsonCapsFan

    ANY of the aforementioned are already more qualified than Goates.

  • FireGMGM&Oates

    They don’t have his PP knowledge though. Plus, he could make Holtby our next first line center.

  • http://batman-news.com PhilR

    They could have Scotty Bowman behind the bench, really does not matter as long as you have a selfish Captain on the ice doing as he pleases.

  • TowsonCapsFan

    And the mitts are off. GBB vs the RedRockers!

  • OVECHKING

    I think the problem is multi-pronged. If you look at the comprehensive “bracket list” JP made over at Japers Rink which has about 64 identified problems, this situation is a HUGE mess. His article didn’t even have all the problems which is scary. From the lack of accountability in the media to Ted being STH renewal driven. caps still haven’t hit the bottom of the valley.

    Worst thing would be if Ted completes his evaluation and tells the new GM that oates should stay for another year. Someone brought up a good point that he wants oates to be in the Caps alumni game for the winter classic. Its would be a RIDICULOUS move if he kept oates on just for that but it wouldn’t surprise me one bit. I think people should genuinely be concerned about that. Another year of oates because of the winter classic. Only with this franchise!

  • Dale

    Bring back Hunter!!!!!@!!!!!

  • Feds91

    Let me get the guys from the cave, we will win

  • TowsonCapsFan

    Which one of the coaches will teach the players how to NOT run into their own players? Vital.

  • Feds91

    Coaching is great but won’t bring work ethic

  • TowsonCapsFan

    There’s no doubt.

  • Rotating-Earth

    A VERY big problem is that Teddy Pocket$ really doesn’t know anything about hockey. He spends big bucks, which is good, but that is not a guarantee that you can filed a well rounded and coached team. Really, who does he go to for advice? DIck Patrick..I think not. I’m not very optimistic as he had plenty of time (and proof) that GMGM wasn’t cutting it.

  • http://batman-news.com PhilR

    The problem is really quite simple, Alex Ovechkin!!!

  • FireGMGM&Oates

    That would be the last straw, if Ted cares that much about the alumni game more than the Cup. I would lose it.

  • Jon A

    My thoughts exactly!!!!

  • Feds91

    You mean hes not a center???? WTF

  • Rotating-Earth

    I’d give the Hunter boys a shot (both, as a package..coach and GM) as they have done a great job in London. (assuming that Teddy Pocket$ still requires ex-Caps as his leaders)

  • KuzzyRulz

    I think it should be Gordon Bombay

  • Rotating-Earth

    I agree.

  • FireGMGM&Oates

    Which ever teaches them about stick length gets my vote.

  • KuzzyRulz

    Actually, I think Adam Oates should stay. He brought some great things to the Caps. Look at OV he is a goal scoring machine. The power play has never been better and honestly, I think Carrick has had a career year.

  • Feds91

    But what about the curve???

  • Bobby

    Somehow 50 goals doesn’t seem to be a problem to me!

  • Feds91

    Put down the pipe and seek a quality rehab you will be ok

  • TowsonCapsFan

    I think we should replace every non-Russian on the team with Russians. Championship.

  • OVECHKING

    Fantastic evaluation KuzzyRules. This thinking is in line with a lot of regular posters here at the start of the season who thought Oates was going to be and still is a great coach! They all preached patience from other fans about Oates. We should give Oates one more year right ?!

  • FireGMGM&Oates

    Overrated

  • KuzzyRulz

    Anyone else think that Mike Green is just misunderstood?
    Guy doesn’t just lose it over night…..

  • Rotating-Earth

    constant floating and lack of backcheck doesn’t cut it for me.

  • TaurusPT111

    He has not stepped up as Capt. I like the guy, but he needs to step up or step out.

  • KuzzyRulz

    Hey, that Towson guy needs to go. He is being mean. Adam Oates has this team going in the right direction. If it wasn’t for the injury to Laich, we could have been a 2 seed, easily.

  • TaurusPT111

    LOL LOL LOL

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    good one

  • TowsonCapsFan

    Hey now, all I said is it would be nice to see a coach inform his players that hitting is totally acceptable — when it’s not friendly fire.

  • Val

    Its 100% correct. As long as he treats this team as business venture, we’ll never see a Cup in DC. Everyone from top to bottom have to want this, only then it could happen.

  • JoeA

    Head Coach JEFF SCHULTZ!

    The only way to turn around Ovi’s +/-.

    The teams reaction after their first practice: “I didn’t know he could talk.”

  • KuzzyRulz

    Do you see them making a change with mcphee or will he be extended?
    He doesn’t have a contract after this weekend and we need to start with plans for next year.

  • http://batman-news.com PhilR

    50 goals and -36, great combo……how is your boy doing 5 v 5??? He is a defensive liability and should sit on the bench other than on Power Plays.

  • TowsonCapsFan

    Just when you think the D can’t get any worse.

  • NickyBacks

    +/- is a terrible stat and not indicative of Ovi’s true greatness!!! He is a +1000 in my heart.

  • Matthew Helm

    Damn. Beat me to it.

  • BorntoHula

    Ashtrays in the dressing room!

  • KuzzyRulz

    I think the best solutions here are:
    1. Yvon Labre
    2. Rod Langway
    3. Peter Bondra
    4. Joe Juneau
    These guys are all proven winners here in the organization and were leaders on prior Caps teams.

  • FireGMGM&Oates

    Schultz brought some snarl to the team. He’s up there with Scott Stevies if you ask me.

  • Yonder

    I would be SO on board with Coach Brads.

  • TowsonCapsFan

    He’s so good, the Kings buried him in Manchester.

  • KuzzyRulz

    Guy has a point. Schultz did have the best +/- in Caps history.

  • Judy Neilson Gray

    Um, hello… Bonzai!

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    I expect both to be gone next week.

  • Stanley Cup in Washington

    1. Dy-lan
    2. Dy-lan
    3. Dy-lan
    4. Dy-lan
    5. Dy-lan
    FTFY

  • Shaun Phillips

    How soon after the game on Sunday? Is there a RMNB pool?

  • FireGMGM&Oates

    Diamond in the rough now.

  • http://batman-news.com PhilR

    I wish our entire team was a dedicated to solid, two way hockey as our beloved Captain is!!

  • KuzzyRulz

    yes he will be fabulous. And has a positive name in the community!

  • Stanley Cup in Washington

    How he was passed up for the Norris that year is beyond belief

  • NickyBacks

    That’s why he’s captain…he leads by example!!

  • TowsonCapsFan

    Hart Trophy worthy.

  • KuzzyRulz

    You know the Caps would not have had a chance if OV hadn’t scored 50 goals this year. He is our best player and perhaps his linemates need to do more.

  • TowsonCapsFan

    What, Jay Beagle didn’t provide enough O for you?

  • Stanley Cup in Washington

    In all seriousness, get Sergei Fedorov in here as an assistant.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    Probably not until after teardown day on Monday. But they don’t wanna sit on it– free agency and the draft loom, and both require planning.

    P.S. Not everyone at RMNB agrees with me about this prediction.

  • TowsonCapsFan

    He won’t leave the KHL, making all that money, to come back to this team as an assistant.

  • KuzzyRulz

    And Scott Stevens or Kevin Hatcher

  • Feds91

    Greatest post here today !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett
  • KuzzyRulz

    You never know…Kuzzy did…

  • BorntoHula

    Mironov!

  • Feds91

    But Feds has 3 Cups Kuzzy has none

  • Barrett

    I was hoping to see a Brendan Witt or Jeff Halpern.

  • http://batman-news.com tominsocal1

    We all know what needs to happen, McPhee needs to go. After that, the most likely ex-Cap would be Konowalchuk, haven’t followed him lately though. The reality is McPhee, Oates, Calle Jo and Kolzig need to all go and they need to bring in someone who can insist a certain top line RW plays some team D.

  • doverdave32

    I’m all for Matt “paperface” Bradley! Maybe Hendy will retire and the two can team up!

  • Charlotte Owens

    Mike Knuble I mean if he can coach his kid he can coach the caps

  • dylan wheatley

    you rang

  • KuzzyRulz

    I really think the Caps should amnesty OV. We have a better cheaper solution in Kuzzy.
    Seriously. 9.5 million dollars a year for like 7 more years….what does that get us.
    1. A coach killer
    2. A horrible leader
    3. A terrible defensive player
    4. No Cup
    5. A guy who lists Radulov and Semin as his best friends
    Ted needs to make a stand. The stand should not hold Oates accountable, but his 9.5 million dollar selfish player.

  • Stanley Cup in Washington

    Or RW.
    Or LW.
    Or just pick one and play it

  • FireGMGM&Oates

    Goalie

  • http://batman-news.com tominsocal1

    Ted would not spend $42M to kill off his Golden Goose. You are forgetting, to Ted, Ovi isn’t a hockey player, but a marketing tool. The problem here KuzzyRulz is you thinking like a hockey person, and not a marketing person. The world isn’t about hockey. It’s about money. Especially for Ted, it’s all about money (picture Uncle Scrooge counting his gold). So, stop complaining, go and renew your tickets, buy some merchandise and, by all means, ROCK THE RED!!!

  • http://batman-news.com tominsocal1

    Can you imagine him coming over the bench next time someone tries to fight Ovi?

  • http://batman-news.com tominsocal1

    Jason Doig!!!

  • Bobby

    So, we do have a defense that should be doing their job instead of trying to skate up like they are forwards (green, orly) that would def help his plus minus if they played their position. Speaking of position play as a winger, in Ovi,s case his only job on defense is to take his point man (which is their d-man in our O zone). You can not
    Honestly tell me that his minus 36 is from the defensemen of the other team scoring because he isn’t doing his job. There is no way that the minus 36 came from the point!

  • CadleCreek

    hc: peat

    dc: iafrate

    oc: ridley

    gc: beaupre

  • Spencer

    Um So how many players have scored 50 goals 5 times in their career?

  • Jeremy in Bethesda, MD

    Steve Kolbe for HC lol

  • Graham Dumas

    Oh wait, this is a SARCASTIC bit. I get that now… [narf]

  • http://batman-news.com tominsocal1

    10 others, and they’ve all won multiple Cups I think. Ovi clearly first 5-time 50-goal-scorer to not even get out of 2nd round. Something incredibly wrong with this organization, and it starts with the meddling owner and works its way down through the arrogant GM.

  • CadleCreek

    except dionne

  • Owen Johnson

    Only if he rocks the skullet behind the bench
    http://www.homermcfanboy.com/images/iafrate092909.png

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett
  • BorntoHula

    Bure?

  • Owen Johnson

    Yes, this is the best year Carrick has had in the NHL. I’d have to agree with you there.

  • Owen Johnson

    Rod Langway is awesome. I always see him at Clydes before games.
    Also Nylander looks like the Hunchback of Notre Dame in that pic

  • Bilal

    lets just make brooks laich the new coach

    He can be a coach/player hybrid

  • Langway

    *ahem* He’s got my vote for defensive coach.

  • VeggieTart

    April Fool’s Day was a week and a half ago.

  • VeggieTart

    Well, Holtby did say he’d like to score a goal sometime, but only if it doesn’t risk the game.

  • VeggieTart

    Thanks for the laugh. I needed that. And given how many shorties the Caps have given up recently, the vaunted power play is sputtering.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    I don’t think you’re right about that.

  • TowsonCapsFan

    Why? If Teddy cared so much about his on ice product, we wouldn’t have had to watch GMGM continuously overpay players through the years thus hampering the ability to bring in secondary goal scoring and solidifying the defense (rounding out the roster). He’s all talk and no action.

  • Gmonster

    I thought the next coach was co-coach with Steve Konowalchuk and Brendan Witt.

  • JoeA

    Lighten Up, Francis!

    It’s a little funny.

  • http://batman-news.com PhilR

    It’s about as funny as Ovechkin playing “defense.”

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    There are players he’s overplayed and there are players he signed as a steal (Grabo, Carlzner, goalies, etc.), so that “continuously” doesn’t really stand up to criticism.

    You can criticize GMGM and be correct, but I don’t think anything about GMGM’s employment says that Ted doesn’t care about the on-ice product. In fact, that care and transparency they put into the 04 rebuild is evidence to the contrary.

  • Fletch

    Caps failed to build great team around Ovi. Guys like Lemieux, Bossy and Gretzky all had great players playing around them.

  • Thomas Conner

    My mom heard on WTOP that he’s coaching something up there

  • Igor Kleyner

    My vote is for Jan Bulis. Just so Ian can ask The Question again.

    http://youtu.be/V2VWLZJHbfs?t=7m44s

  • CadleCreek

    You could argue that he had to sign Carlzner, grabbo, goalies, tc. at a steal because of the over payment to Ovi, Laich, Erskine, Green, Backs, Ward, Chimera, etc.

    Painting yourself into a corner then lucking out of it, does not make you a good GM.

    Ted is all about the money. He realizes how fragile this fan base is currently. he is a marketer, a very good market. He understands this fan base and makes decision based on future revenue, even if those decisions are detrimental to the on ice product. Ask GMGM who squashed the Semin to st. Louis deal. Who killed the Green trade. Why Hunter really left?

  • TowsonCapsFan

    Grabovski fell in his lap and already had limited options on where to play. The Caps also had a limited amount of cap space. That argument is void. Alzner? Fine. Carlson? Paid in advance for what the organization hoped he can do. John was not worth nearly $4 mil per heading into the season. I’ll even give the benefit of the doubt with him though. But how about Laich? Green? Erskine? Terribly overpaid for what they brought to the ice.

    They tore down the Caps in 2004 and rebuilt through the draft. OV fell in their laps. Backstrom was number 4 overall. Green, at the time, was a steal late in the first. Good pick. But where did all of that lead? Playoff failure year in and year out. Ted should have fired McPhee after the MTL collapse, when the losing culture really started taking control of the team and fanbase. How about last season? The Caps lose in the first round, again, and Teddy proclaims that he feels “terrible” and that he feels “personally responsible” for the collapse and embarrassment in another Game 7 at home. What did he do to back up that talk? Nothing. Not a single thing. He kept the GM. Kept the coach. Kept the same core. If he doesn’t make the correct decisions now, then what? OV is his meal ticket for the duration of his time here in DC. The thoughts that he can single handedly take this team to a Cup are foolish and juvenile. After all, OV is the only 3 time league MVP that has not advanced to a championship series, nonetheless win one. He’s approaching 30. The “10 year” window Teddy chanted years ago is already closed unless he wises up and makes smart hockey decisions. For once, he needs to let the actions do the talking.

  • TowsonCapsFan

    That’s on the GM and the Owner. If Ted really cared about the on ice product, what in the heck is taking him so long to fix this mess???

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    “Ted should have fired McPhee after the MTL collapse”

    No, that’s the opposite of the lesson there. The Caps made too many changes after MTL.

  • TowsonCapsFan

    No, they didn’t make enough. Their ‘run and gun’ style of play does not equate to success in the playoffs. Look at the Cup champions through time. Who were offensive juggernauts with no defense? EDM in the 80’s? Fine. But there was no one else.

  • doverdave32

    And everyone thought that Roy vs. Boudreau was great!!

  • BorntoHula

    The way that MTL played that series, the caps had to win games 1-0. They did not have the D to do that and never corrected it. GMGM has never acquired a top pairing shut down D and should have been fired for that after the MTL series.

  • VeggieTart

    Youth hockey, I believe. He’s from Michigan originally, so I understand him wanting to stay there for a while.

  • BorntoHula

    You have to play D as a team, that includes wingers. If you’re not covering your man that gives the other team more options and spreads out the D. So it’s not necessarily that player who scores but can still indirectly affect the play greatly.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    I’m at least relieved that opinions like yours are in a dwindling minority.

  • CadleCreek

    Lowe, coffey, fuhr, Huddy and strong down the center

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    I don’t see how having strong motivation to make a good signing lessens that goodness of that signing.

    Ted is not all about the money.

  • TowsonCapsFan

    That’s your only comeback? Keep sipping the red kool-aid. The Caps will never win a Stanley Cup unless they have quality depth at Center and on Defense. And wanna hear more? Visit the CSN boards. You’ll get toasted.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    You seem to think of this comment thread as a rap battle. It’s not.

  • TowsonCapsFan

    Look at past Stanley Cup winners: CHI (x2), BOS, PIT, DET – ALL strong on D and up the middle. They also do not play the BB run and gun style hockey that the red rockers fell in love with. Unless you have both, you will never have playoff success.

  • TowsonCapsFan

    You have yet to respond with a detailed retort to the issues I’ve brought up. Hard to take you seriously when you fail to do so.

  • TowsonCapsFan

    He may not in his mind, but his actions (or lack there of) prove differently.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    You’re thinking of it qualitatively, which is nice, but there’s more rigorous analysis needed than “strong up the middle.”

    The thing Chicago, Boston, and Pittsburgh all had in common wasn’t commitment to defense or strength up the middle– it’s that they always had the puck. So did the 2008-2010 Caps.

    That stopped when BB was forced to pressured to go trap in Dec 2010. The team declined, and kept declining. They got stronger up the middle, they played defense first, and they still got smoked. Because they didn’t have the puck.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    My detailed retort is four years of articles here: http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/author/peter-hassett/

  • BorntoHula

    I would argue they got worse because they didn’t have a good defense. The offense was able to cover that up during the regular season but got exposed in the playoffs.

  • Evan Michael

    It’s good to see the GBB over here. Where were you a week ago when I was fighting the Red Rockers by myself?

  • TowsonCapsFan

    You seem to think that the Caps could have won a Cup after the MTL collapse had they just stuck to their run and gun offense with no focus on D. Is that what I’m reading?

  • It reeks.

    I miss Joe Reekie.

  • TowsonCapsFan

    It’s hard to be here.

  • It reeks

    17 years, friends. The definition of insanity.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    Okay, but that’s not backed up by the data. The volume of shots the Caps put on the Habs was ludicrous. Montreal hardly ever had the puck.

    Reliance on the PP is something that gets exposed by the playoffs. Having an offense that shoots a ton of pucks and gets a ton of rebounds is not.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    Yes. Absolutely.

  • http://batman-news.com PhilR

    Far from the dwindling minority you panty waste Rock the Redder, it is fans like yourself that allow Ted to get away with Icing a team that can not contend for the ultimate prize. Ted could care less about a Cup, all he cares about are keeping you Rock the Redders renewing year in and year out!

  • Evan Michael

    Is that Bobby clown still on here? I just read this below and threw up in my mouth.

    “So, we do have a defense that should be doing their job instead of
    trying to skate up like they are forwards (green, orly) that would def
    help his plus minus if they played their position. Speaking of position
    play as a winger, in Ovi,s case his only job on defense is to take his
    point man (which is their d-man in our O zone). You can not
    Honestly
    tell me that his minus 36 is from the defensemen of the other team
    scoring because he isn’t doing his job. There is no way that the minus
    36 came from the point!”

  • TowsonCapsFan

    Name the last team that played a similar style of hockey, with similar personnel as the Caps had then, that won the Cup.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    a) It’s panty waist, not panty waste.
    b) I don’t have season tickets to renew.
    c) “Rock the Redders?”

  • CadleCreek

    4 years of puff pieces about nun and gun hockey. this team was not built for a cup run, even before 2010. They played a very loose system that when pressured by tight systems failed over the long term, say best of 7 games.

    when they tried to go to a more comprehensive 200 ft 5 man system, they horses they had couldn’t/wouldn’t do what is required. Hunter hockey held the stars accountable and didn;t let them play with 1 goal leads int he 3rd because they can’t/won;t play 200 foot hockey. GMGM and Ted made this mess. They have had ample opportunity to change this roster and chose not to. I blame the puppet master behind these failures and that is Ted pulling the strings. He has squashed very reasonable trades based on not wanting to loose his marketing pieces and essentially told dale to play the Russians in game 7. which Dale said fine you want to lose, lose I’m going back to my farm.

  • TowsonCapsFan

    “Rock the Redders” are fans that believe the Caps “run and gun” style of hockey could translate to a Stanley Cup.

  • Evan Michael

    This is where I have been banished too. It’s absolutely painful.

    Keep rocking the red, folks.

  • OVECHKING

    I’m a big Ovi fan, not sure if you guys can tell, but even I can’t defend Ovechkin’s defence. Its putrid 80% of the time.

  • BorntoHula

    I think a lot of those shots were not necessarily quality shots.

    But at any rate if you want to buy the hot goalie argument, then you have to be ready to beat a hot goalie and you do that by not making defensive mistakes and winning 1-0.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    You mean a team that got ~55% of shot attempts (like the 2010 Caps) and ended up winning a Cup? Literally every champion since 07. http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/2013/4/4/4178716/why-possession-matters-a-visual-guide-to-fenwick

  • TowsonCapsFan

    So, care to retract your “dwindling minority” statement? The only thing dwindling around here is your hockey knowledge on what it takes to win a Stanley Cup.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    I’m skeptical you read four years of articles just now.

    Skim a few of these: http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/category/statistical-analysis/

  • Evan Michael

    I am/was a Green fan, and I can’t defend his play this year either. It’s hard on us, but we have to be honest when assessing these guys. They can re-find their game, but to act like they weren’t horrible (as some people on here do) defensively is just wrong.

  • CadleCreek

    Actually, if you look at pp percentages and pp per game, it is about the same for regular season and post season league wide. For whatever reason, the Caps are a bit of an outlier in generating pp opportunities and converting.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    Those might not have been quality shots. They didn’t go in, that’s for sure– but the volume alone should’ve been enough to win against a goalie not playing at his very best.

  • TowsonCapsFan

    LOL. You totally miss the point. The Caps teams labelled as “contenders” lacked a true 2C and at least 2 very good DEFENSIVE d men. They played a very loose system, as CadleCreek has pointed out. The moment they got bottled up, they had difficulties winning games (see: MTL collapse). Previous Stanley Cup winners (CHI, BOS, LA, PIT, DET….) were ALL loaded with center depth and very good D men! Now, please try again.

  • BorntoHula

    You have to be able to beat a goalie playing his very best to win the cup.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    Ahh. And everyone else would be the people who supported running this team into the ground in the four years since.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    Not really.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    The Caps didn’t get bottled up. They fired 45 shots a game. I can see why people believe what you’re saying, but it doesn’t stand up to substantive criticism beyond slogans used in internet forums.

  • TowsonCapsFan

    I suggest you brush up on your hockey intellect. Just because GMGM and Teddy could not make the necessary changes work, doesn’t mean that they should have stuck with the ‘run and gun’. They need NEW management and NEW coaching to change the losing culture. Something GMGM and Teddy could not do the last 4 years.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    No, thanks.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    That’s why we want him playing offense instead.

  • TowsonCapsFan

    Who cares? Many of those shots were from the perimeter of the ice or when there was no screen in front of Halak. MTL kept the Caps from getting to the front of the net, chipped out a low scoring game — something the Caps were uncomfortable with — and won the series by being patient. Things tighten up in the playoffs. Substantially. Until the Caps can play a similar style (See: Kings, Bruins), they will have NO success and therefore NO Cup.

  • Darla Doxstater

    Some of ‘em need to be hit harder!

  • TowsonCapsFan

    You do know that offense is tied directly to strong defense and transition, right?

  • Evan Michael

    You want Green on offense?

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    Ha, that might not be so bad.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com Ian Oland

    I still haven’t listened to this.

  • Moose & Squirrel

    You crazy

  • DashingDave314

    Alzner and Green need to be together. While I love the Carlzner bromance, for the betterment of the team, it must be broken up. Alzner is the best stay at home D-man we have, Green likes to play up. Alzner can stay back and let Green be more aggressive on offense.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    Offense is actually inversely correlated with defense. The less D you play, the better your O is.

    But yeah, I know that’s not what you’re saying.

  • TowsonCapsFan

    Have you ever played the sport competitively?

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com Ian Oland

    I think Oates will stay. I think GMGM will be gone. I think all of the assistants minus maybe Kolzig will be gone.

    What I think should happen? GMGM should stay (*GASP*) and the entire coaching staff should be fired.

  • CadleCreek

    the caps took plenty of the shots form the outside. Kinda like Oates with his ‘we don;t care if they shoot form outside philosophy. the Habs didn’t want to allow anything cheap inside and made sure #8 didn’t get anything easy. The system worked so long as the goalie held up. Price was chased and Halak ws able to stop the initial shot without worrying about rebounds. The system worked to Halak’s incomplete game-he was good on the first shot without regard to the rebound.

    BB never really adjusted, thinking he didn’t have to line match at home or changing up some the exit lanes on the breakout and regroup. BB’s arrogance had a lot to do with not winning that series but it also destroyed some confidence in the team. This group has never had the swagger they did during that season.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    Here’s the thing about Green: he’s still really, really good.

    Back when he was playing offense 60% of the time, how he handled odd-man breaks wasn’t a big deal. Now that his team doesn’t have the puck anymore, those fault looks a lot worse.

    But yeah, he needs to get better in his own zone.

  • Moose & Squirrel

    You know it!!!!!

  • Evan Michael

    You might be right. The fundamental problem, however, with this team lies in one of the sentences you have written. The fact that Alzner is the best stay at home defender on the team, and has been for about three years, is a problem. He’s a very solid player, don’t get me wrong. But he’s young and not overly physical. He is an EXCELLENT second pairing defender, but he should not be the best defensive player on a team that wants to win now.

  • me

    I am surprised nobody has mentioned the obvious peter has set/ian oldan GM/coach combo.

    So sick))))))))

  • Moose & Squirrel

    I’m in the game

  • Evan Michael

    I’m not trying to be a jerk, but did you really just say “the less d you play, the better your o is”?

    I’m also curious if you have played this sport, or just report it.

  • TowsonCapsFan

    Of course you are, Mr. UU. That was never really in question!

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com Ian Oland

    WOOO!! HEAD COACH IAN OLDAN! THATS ME (I think)

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    Yes, because it’s true. If your team’s offense has the puck the whole game, you never have to play defense. The best teams in the league rarely play defense. See the Kings for an example.

    I just said it in a really tricky way.

  • OVECHKING

    Ian, I saw you want GMGM to stay with the team down below, any explanation on this matter?

  • CadleCreek

    not less better d you play and defense starts on the fore check and continues for 200 feet back to your net. The other driver is regroup/breakout ability. The caps rarely complete 2 passes on the regroup or breakout which leads to less possession.

    it is part system and mostly player related with this group

  • TowsonCapsFan

    The Kings literally suffocate the opposition with strong forechecking and aggressive defense — creates turnovers (I.e. strong D leads to offense). That is what leads to them having the puck most of the time. The Caps did not have that then and they surely don’t have that now.

  • TowsonCapsFan

    So we can continue sucking for eternity? That’s the only explanation.

  • TowsonCapsFan
  • Evan Michael

    I kind of know what you mean, in an off way.

    The good teams, however, don’t not play defense. Their defense is just good at reading plays and making good breakouts. For instance, the Caps are atrocious at the defensive position, which I don’t think anyone can deny. A large part of that is poor reads (Orlov, Green and Carlson) and an inability to properly break out of their zone. Their break outs are HORRIBLE, and this prevents offense.

    I would argue the reverse of what you have said: It’s tough to play offense if you don’t have a good defense. Proper structure and smart defensive plays lead to the offense with the puck on their stick and plays being made. If these can’t happen, the team spends a bunch of their time hemmed in their own zone, as the Caps generally are.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    That’s not correct.

    “The game’s changed. They think there’s defending in today’s game. Nah, it’s how much you have the puck. Teams that play around in their own zone (say) they’re defending but they’re generally getting scored on or taking face-offs and they need a goalie to stand on his head if that’s the way they play,”

    That’s from the coach of the Kings, Darryl Sutter.

    (But I agree that the Caps don’t have it now.)

    p.s. if they were literally suffocating the opposition, they’d probably get a penalty at the very least.

  • http://batman-news.com PhilR

    Who the hell is this Peter Hassett clown anyway? There are actually people that have come on here for the last four years to read the drivel this guy is spewing? It is simply unbelievable that anyone can think a run n gun system will ever win a Cup. And then to say the last six winners of the Cup played such a system is outrageous to say the least. Chicago, Boston, and Pittsbugh playing a run n gun style? That is just one of the most comical things I have ever heard. We came over here today to have a little fun and are leaving dumber for the drivel morons such as this guy are posting.

  • TowsonCapsFan

    You really misunderstand the definition of defense. The STYLE of defense has changed, but it’s still there. Forechecking and creating turnovers IS defense. That DEFENSE does not necessarily need to occur in the teams own zone.

    Anyways, you continue wishing for the return of the run and gun. Just know that it will never equate to a Stanley Cup.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    Yeah, you’re right. I’m not saying “D doesn’t matter,” and I was being a little argumentative there. I am saying that it’s possible to win the way the Caps played back in 2010, and that a team who is dominating possession during 5v5 is a priori evidence of good defense.

  • Evan Michael

    They don’t “literally” suffocate. That would be a crime.

    (just pulling your leg, buddy)

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    We agree in principle! A victory of internet comments!

  • CadleCreek

    you realize Sutter is basically saying what we are saying. 200 feet of pressure and quality exits. Otherwise your just faping in your own end.

  • TowsonCapsFan

    If he said that in a Canadian market, he’d be burnt toast.

  • Evan Michael

    You’re right, but to a point. You can win meaningless games that way, sure. If you’re happy with the President’s Trophy, then build teams in this manner. This style of play is exposed in the playoffs, and won’t win you more than 2 rounds, however.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    If you’re creating a lot of turnovers, that means you didn’t have the puck before, which is an indicator of weak defense.

  • Moose & Squirrel

    French toast

  • CadleCreek

    depends on the ref

  • Moose & Squirrel

    You sir, win a prize.

  • TowsonCapsFan

    What do I get?? A plastic mini Stanley Cup? That’s the only Cup this organization will hold for the foreseeable future.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    That’s what I’m skeptical about.

  • Moose & Squirrel

    Group-on coupons

  • TowsonCapsFan

    Yes, because it’s very possible for one team to control possession for 80 or 90% of the game.

  • NickyBacks

    Not true…if we kept that run and gun style, we would have 3 of them by now!! Defense is overrated…it’s all about Ovi and scoring goals.

  • TowsonCapsFan

    Nicky, you stop feeding the trolls!

  • NickyBacks

    Ha ha. But they feed out of my hand so easily

  • TowsonCapsFan

    Sweet. I need something to start my bonfire tonight.

  • Moose & Squirrel

    I get the sense that a lot of the theories posted below are based on “Fancy Stats”.

  • CadleCreek

    so if you look at this from a shot differential way of determining possession.

    shot-opp d gets it-turnover in neutral or ozone by fore check pressure
    rinse repeat
    statistics (corsi or some other S) wise you are completely driving possession but if you took a watch to possession it would probably be in the other teams favor

  • TowsonCapsFan

    Where’s Neil? The Corsi queen of the world.

  • TowsonCapsFan

    Now, now, let’s not start clouding the issue with facts CadleCreek.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett
  • robostop10

    Ok…so you all decide to relocate and I wasn’t informed? What is this anarchy?! I demand an explanation?

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    That’s a common misunderstanding, except possession is driven a lot by sustained time in the offensive zone with multiple shots on goal based on rebounds. Garbage shots from the outside lead to turnovers and ultimately less possession.

  • Moose & Squirrel

    Friday afternoon fun

  • DashingDave314

    Agreed, but very good defensemen rarely hit the market, and when they do, they get overpaid. Sort of a Catch-22.

  • robostop10

    Throwing rotten tomatoes sounds like fun

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett
  • CadleCreek

    no corsi and fenwick are basically shot attempt differential regardless of any other factor besides when they are broken into close, etc.

    garbage shots from the outside are not turnovers because they are shots but a good team that fore checks will recapture the puck for a shot attempt before the defenders do.

  • robostop10

    If you really want to fix this laughingstock of an organization, you need to bring in true hockey people to run it. Not as an entertainment venture, but as a serious place to win the CUP! No first year coaches…no amatuers. Put hockey people in the hockey positions and let them do their thing. 1st a competent GM who can pick a coach with a vision and identity for this team. 2nd trade Green and amnesty Laich.

  • DoxinCalvert

    They were bored, so they decided…. “Invasion, that sounds like fun!”

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    Except for the last line, I agree. That’s kind of what this (satirical) article was all about.

  • FireGMGM&Oates

    You think Laich is salvageable?

  • it reeks

    You guys, he’s like Backes or Richards. We cannot let him go!

  • OVECHKING

    Looks like some paid the ultimate price.

  • Doublenickelporn

    You guys just asked for advertising, boom you got the GBB!

  • FireGMGM&Oates

    It’s all you need.

  • DoxinCalvert

    Happy to oblige…

  • Doublenickelporn

    You guys have killed Laich all year. You invented the Blackhole line, yet you defend Green with silly posession #’s never accounting for the 2-3 gaffes per game he makes which leads to the puck directly ending up in our net. Not to mention the fact the guy checked out 3 years ago, no heart.

  • Anela

    What about Locker? He’s already spent some time on the ice this season observing the play. Also, he’s already a master as using the telestrator, and could base all his coaching on that. Once he’s coach all coaches will have telestrators behind the bench and it would be glorious.

  • Doublenickelporn

    do this board automatically refresh??

  • FireGMGM&Oates

    No.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    I wanna find out. When he was healthy (and under another system), he was good.

    If this surgery went well, and the Caps dump him, and he is a reliable top sixer or even a third liner, it’ll have been a mistake.

    If he’s not healthy, it doesn’t come off the salary cap.

    (OTOH, no compliance buyouts after this season)

    Tough situation, but I wanna believe– and I wanna see more.

  • DashingDave314

    How about Alan May? At the very least, he’d probably fight other coaches. And win.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    I don’t think we invented the black hole line– that might have been Adam Vingan. I forget.

    I think the things Green does well are significant and not easily taught. I think the things he doesn’t do well are easy to fix and easier to mitigate through a better system.

  • YOU_SUCK

    sad thing is shultz wouldve been an improvement over some of the pathetic blueliners we put out there this season. Yeah, he wasn’t good enough for the kings blueline, but half our blueline wasn’t good enough for manchester.

  • CadleCreek

    I might be back. Test 1,2,3 …

  • DashingDave314

    HOLD IT HERE OVI!

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    P.S. We did not kill Laich.

    From http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2013/12/13/take-troy-brouwer-to-thebank/

    “Post script: While it’s tempting, I don’t think these data should be used to trash Laich. His on-ice performance has been dreary, but that doesn’t mean he’s a bad player– just a player who is performing badly right now. The groin injury that kept him out of all but 9 games last season only flared back up last month, but Brooks indicated to Katie Carrera that he had been feeling tightness for days before it became untenable. Laich’s skating may have been hindered without his knowing. He has never been known for strong puck possession, but Laich has often been a solid two-way forward and excellent penalty killer. If he can return to health and find complementary linemates, Laich may find a renaissance of his own.”

  • DoxinCalvert

    But it lets you know when a response has been posted…

  • FireGMGM&Oates

    O shiiiiiiiiii

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    My apologies. You weren’t trolling. You were like a dolphin that got caught in the tuna net.

  • CadleCreek

    His best years were when he had Semin and or fedeorv on his line. Those 2 drove his numbers. I thought he was way over paid at the time and nothing has changed my opinion yet.

  • CadleCreek

    those poor little dolphin

  • Grant

    Garbage shots from the outside are not scoring chances and frequently turn into turnovers.

  • YOU_SUCK

    might be good for him to switch careers. he couldn’t possibly be any worse at his current one.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    He was definitely a passenger to Feds and Semin. Maybe I hope beyond hope.

  • Grant

    I played in Canada Tots thru Midget, maybe he hasn’t, maybe you have, irrelevant.

  • DashingDave314

    Is insulting Alan May still punishable by stoning?

  • CadleCreek

    GMGM did that and got suspended. can;t remember the young power forward that destroyed his shoulder in the Chicago preseason debacle.

  • FireGMGM&Oates

    Peter, some people over at CSN Washington would love to have a hockey chat with you. They said they would be nice.

  • Grant

    Is he? I don’t even notice him any more to be honest, although I’m only really watching #8, #92 and #25 (like the way he plays and carries himself). I do remember watching him a few years back and he was a real game-breaker.

  • Doublenickelporn

    Apparently you never watched Mcphee play as a hockey player. Visit you tube guy was tough SOB, too bad it doesn’t translate to the front office.

  • DashingDave314

    Ha, yup remember that. Seriously though, I think May would make a good hockey coach. Terrific analysis and has a great mind for hockey.

  • Grant

    I think they need to wait another year, at least.

  • DashingDave314

    I totally wasn’t being sarcastic at all dude.

  • Doublenickelporn

    If guys are truly being kicked off this site I find that incredibly disappointing. While never commenting here, I’ve have read the blog for years and figured the RMNB crew could handle some strong hockey debate. If you all are truly kicking people out because of some sarcasm and wit in a typed debate than shame on you guys.

  • Hockey mom

    How about Mike Knuble, or is that too fresh? There is evidence at Kettler that he has some coaching experience!

    I don’t know if I am serious or not about that suggestion, but I did hear him on 106.7 the fan today. One thing he said that I think many players on our team have lost sight of is that things change through the course of your career, you get traded, new coach comes in, the game itself changes, etc, and players that learn to adapt and buy into change are the ones that will be successful and have long careers. Is that why our third line found success while others faltered? Have they been better at adapting to Oates style/system and adjusting their play against opposing lines more rapidly or is it their consistency of linemates and play the reason? Are they more fluid in how they approach getting the puck on net or more rigid and structured?

    That line should be analyzed, because they were doing something right throughout the whole season.

  • CadleCreek

    In calculating corsi and fenwick they are a shot attempt, no different from a tap in 2v1 shot. They flaw in the stats are trying to take into account quality vs quantity. It exists, there were some papers on it this year but it is hard to tease out of the data. Blindly following stats is no good. The stats should have some agreement with what you see. The Leafs were not a good team but were stealing points early in the season. The caps have been heavily outshot most nights and won 5-2 being outshot 38-21.

  • Doublenickelporn

    Sure this system makes no sense for anyone on our blue line currently outside of Strachan and Alzner, but Green is checked out. If you believe any reports he led the charge to fire Bruce the same guy he flourished under. Guess he pouted when Bruce asked him to play some defense in 2011. That team was acutally more poised to win a cup but was desimated with blue line injuries in the 2nd round Sean Collins top right hand D and you aren’t beating anyone.

  • Doublenickelporn

    Peter, how long do they continue to risk paying a 3million$ player 4.5 million and continuing to get a 700k output from him because of a groin that’s never right. That has amnesty written all over it!

  • Catherine__M

    Sigh. Looks like the WaPo commentariat showed up en masse today. This is their main talking point. That and making fun of anyone with anything positive to say about the team, and accusing everyone but themselves of being a bandwagon fan.

  • Doublenickelporn

    Lets be honest lets just say Chimera and Ward, whoever is between them succeeds. Whether it was Laich under BB, MP85 last playoffs, Grabo, Fehr even Mojo looks like a hockey player between them. Whatever Oates and Calle Jo has their team playing, its an insult to the word system. As bad as Carolina was last night it was almost 2-1 in shots for the Canes. And that was an exhibition game, I’ve seen more hitting in a non check Squirt game.

  • Grant

    I partly agree with you b/c MTL knocked out the defending SCCs in the next round, if I remember correctly. Vancouver also made the same mistake after losing to the Bruins. The Canucks let too many key players walk, but If you look at the players the Capitals let go though, most have declined precipitously since then (Knuble, B. Morrison, Bradley, Fleishman)

  • Grant

    No, they actually came very very close to winning it and I was cheering against them.

  • Grant

    I’m on the fence about those stats as well. I had a discussion with the mod yesterday about OV’s shot attempts. My point was that he takes shots when others don’t, and that’s not really a good thing. Toews and Parise hit the net about ~68% of the time over the past 3 years and OV is just over 50%.

    Too many of his shots go into shinpads or carom off the glass and go back the other way, resulting in turnovers.

  • Justin
  • CadleCreek

    A shot is not a turnover in the stats sense whether it is blocked or goes off the glass and turns into a breakout pass for the other team.

  • CadleCreek

    No to knuble.

    These guys need an experienced coach that won’t bow to their wishes. This also requires management to shut their doors and let the coach have control

  • Hockey mom

    Yes, so what is it that THEY (#25 and #42) do or (maybe don’t do), specifically, that other FWs haven’t been able to figure out?

    I think that knowledge could help going forward.

  • Doublenickelporn

    sorry but that’s a statement I’ve seen all too often here and the posters are serious.

  • Grant

    Exactly, you know we agree on this right.
    Guy 1 – “Damn, OV had 14 attempted shots last night and no turnovers”.
    Guy 2 – Uh, did you watch the game””

  • CadleCreek

    I coach my kids that a bad angled shot wide is an Alex Semin breakout pass. He does that a lot. 5 guys caught going the wrong way on a puck that deflects perfectly up for a break out. Shooting is good but shot placement is also important.

  • DashingDave314

    In all honesty, I do think May would be a good coach. Not for the reason that I listed, but because he has a great hockey mind.

  • CadleCreek

    25 and 42 play strong along the wall and are always in good support positions (like vertices on a triangle) by providing depth and width. Very simple concept that most NA players are taught during their upbringing. Can;t speak specifically about Euro players but assume it is a similar concept over there.

    25/42 regardless of center almost always cover the high area in the o-zone, especially on the fore check. Watch how the attack and bound back in arcs to the 3rd guy high area. They also almost always pick up the correct guy on the back check whether they are the 3rd, 4th or 5th guy back to the zone. The only real fault in their games is 25 bobbles too many breakout passes for my liking and i don;t like where he positions his body when that pass is on the boards. 42 is pretty solid 3rd liner, with better first 2 steps and consistency(which he has seemed to found this year)could be top 6.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    I think you’re missing my point here. I’m not disputing that shot quality exists. I’m saying that a long distance shot is more likely to be blocked or saved, and that each of those events is more likely to lead to opponent possession than a closer shot.

    Conclusion: While fenwick/corsi counts a crappy shot as an event, taking a bunch of crappy shots makes for a bad fenwick/corsi team.

  • Doublenickelporn

    hopefully you are joking again. Maybe he could hire Pierre and Keith Jones as assistants and Laughlin to run video (He is good with the telastrater)

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    Debate is welcome. Name-calling isn’t. Trolling isn’t. Our commenting policy is linked to at the top of the site. http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/comment-policy/

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    What’s a GBB?

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    I’m not saying it’s not tough– I’m not even saying I’m completely rational about this. I’m saying I’m rooting for the guy.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    Haha. Yeaaaaaah

  • Doublenickelporn

    You guys had an opportunity to blow this site up, to be the other woman to Chuck, but your violating rule # 6 yourselves by kicking off everyone.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    Our site is doing fine without rabble making personal attacks and dropping misogynistic B.S.

    I didn’t kick everyone off. I kicked off three people who were derailing the conversation.

  • Sonia

    Mr. Nasty!

  • CadleCreek

    goats blood brethren, goes back to the knuble comment on dc 101 about sacrificing a goat to score a goal. we started on the CI site until the great banning incident then moved to CSN.

    We basically don’t like the direction the team has been going since after the Montreal series. (some of us, including myself before the Montreal series) That was the great awakening. Most of us have been Caps fans since the 70’s and just want a cup. We think the Bruins team or the Detroit development model are more apropos than what is currently used by the Caps.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    Haha. Cool. Well, you’re very welcome here. Lemme know when I get too defensive. Making sure the community is welcoming to new readers is a tough balance to strike vs vigorous debate.

    I don’t think anyone on RMNB staff likes where things have gone since MTL either, though we probably disagree about exactly how.

  • Rhino40

    Kaminski LOL…C’mon you apes!! You Wanna live forever?

    As for Tikkanen as Coach–why not?
    Of course, under Tikkanen the players would have to figure out systems, line pairings, goalie starts, etc. for themselves.
    You see, not only do the Caps have exactly Zero (0) Finns on the Roster and Zero Finns anywhere in the System, but even if they did, Esa’s own countrymen are often unable to decipher what comes out of his mouth.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/capitals/longterm/1998/stanleycup/finals/tikkan09.htm

  • CadleCreek

    Peter..

    Conclusion: While fenwick/corsi counts a crappy shot as an event, taking a bunch of crappy shots makes for a bad fenwick/corsi team.

    we are saying the same thing. This is what I don;t like about the shot/possession stats. I tracked the Caps v Devils game earlier this year. I think it is the same one sbnation whatever the devils feed is tracked. I tracked number of passes on a breakout and outcome. It was pretty ugly for the caps. Most(80ish%) were 1 or less passes and no shot. NJ was about 60% 3 passes and zone entry. It told a lot about the game the caps eventually lost.

  • Rhino40

    OMG HE’S GONNA TELESTRATE!!!! SOMEBODY STOP HIM!!!

  • Rhino40

    Sorry, no Goat’s Blood is served here, but damn little KoolAid® either.

  • Doublenickelporn

    Come on man lighten up!!! And not sure what rabble is but just go read a post by cadlecreek above on Ward and Chimera, thats what you’ll get from these guys. I found this article to be quite hysterical, the sad thing is half your readers are going to believe it to be true.

  • CadleCreek

    Koolaid just isn’t as refreshing on the golf course in May as nice pewter Chalice of Goat’s Blood

  • Doublenickelporn

    well said!!

  • Stanley Cup in Washington

    Two things Peter:
    1. Learn the game of hockey. It’s obvious you’ve never played it, but I can give you a pass for that. Spouting fancystats BS in response to rational thinking is, however, an embarrassment.
    2. Learn to take a joke. And if it’s just hitting a little too close to home for you, revert to #1 and be better prepared.

    You’ve got a nice site here and an increasingly loud voice in the media in this town. You can do good with this, if you know what good is. It would be disappointing to see you tone down criticism now that the organization has welcomed you into the fold. Don’t become another Chuck Gormley. This team needs people around in the media who will push the important issues and ask the tough questions.

  • DashingDave314

    No, I’m not. I’ve always liked May and I think he’d make a good coach. OTOH, he could just be the Capitals version of Rick Dempsey for all I know.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    That’s an awful comment top to bottom.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    Absolutely.

  • mucha563

    I just finished reading all of the comments so far and the main thing I get from them is that people need to lighten up!!!! I am upset that the team did not not make the playoffs; however, that doesn’t mean I should start spouting all of the ways I feel things should be different in an aggressive matter. The truth is, none of us are on the team, behind the bench or in the back office. We can only guess why things went so horribly wrong and hope that someone who is really involved with the team can make the appropriate changes.

    With that being said, I feel as if many have missed the point of this RMNB article, which is to bring some levity to this situation. Let’s face it, an article that has a picture of Matt Bradley bleeding behind the bench is probably meant to be light hearted. I personally vote for Bradley!!! He bleed for the team because he would do anything to help his team win. I miss him also. I bet the Caps could get him cheap since he rolls in an old Saturn with questionable rims (yes, I know it was a joke). I would recommend him wearing the helmet behind the bench because I bet if he is there, a puck will find his head just to make him bleed.

  • DashingDave314

    Two things whoever you are:

    1.) Peter knows hockey extremely well, and fancy stats have proven to be, at worst, fairly good indicators of how well a team is playing. You possess the puck, you’re probably going to be winning. You don’t, you won’t.

    2.) Difference between taking a joke and uncalled for name calling. Despite what Skip Bayless and Stephen A. Smith might think, it is quite possible (and fun) to have debates without resorting to name calling.

  • Doublenickelporn

    that’s the difference between some, many of us celebrate the fact this team didn’t make the playoffs. What are we missing 4-7 more games, this current dumpster fire would have been destroyed by Boston in a 7 game series, Hunter isn’t coaching this team. It took an owner claiming “I see no weaknesses on this team” and the train derailment that was the Caps this year. And one just need to watch the product on the ice to tell that those behind the bench don’t have a clue as to what’s going.

  • Stanley Cup in Washington

    There are some who would say this is an awful site top to bottom.
    I didn’t do that because I’m trying to be nice.
    I mean, you’re kicking people out of here who disagree with you, so I know I have to walk on eggshells since you’re so thin skinned.

  • Sarah

    Three million people have come to this site, and not to read the drivel you’re spewing.

  • Doublenickelporn

    So says the guy that wants Alan May to be the Caps next Coach.

  • Langway

    No one who visits this site regularly would believe it was true. It does, however, provide for an amusing, light-hearted discussion. Unfortunately, some people are just itching for a fight.

  • DashingDave314

    “Suggesting” and “wanting” are two entirely different things.

  • Langway

    Calling someone thin-skinned is being nice? Actually, it was rather polite given some of the comments over on CSN regarding this site, its staff, and its readers.

  • Stanley Cup in Washington

    Yeah, DNP!
    Get out your dictionary already!

  • DashingDave314
  • http://batman-news.com tominsocal1

    @mucha: We are frustrated. A three-time MVP on the team and never past the 2nd round since he’s been here. The GM simply has no clue how to build a team. The D is incredibly weak and we have very few forwards who play the entire rink. That said, the 3rd line is really good. That’s a start. Now bring in a new GM to fill in around it and for God’s sake get a coach without all Oates’ weird idiosyncrasies.

  • Catherine__M
  • Beth

    OLI! OLI! OLI! OLI!

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett

    I’m kicking people out who spoil the community.

  • mucha563

    I agree with everything you just wrote. We all want change because the system the Capitals have is obviously not working. All I meant to say was that there are those making comments who act as if they could fix everything and that no one else is correct. If they are so good at coaching or managing a NHL team, why are they not doing it? Also, there are those who just seem to want to pick a fight with the hardworking creators of RMNB. If you do not like what they write, you can choose not to click on their website. The information provided by this blog is very educational and amusing, which is why I believe they have so many Caps fans reading it.

  • Andrew

    Sounds like something a bandwagoner would say.

  • Tadd

    Actually Nylander still plays. He joined up with his brother Peter in my hometown team Vita Hästen for a couple of games, before getting signed by AIK – who was relegated from the Swedish Hockey League last weekend.

  • http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/ Peter Hassett
  • Tadd

    He scored 5 points, 2+3, in the qualification series for the SHL. And that as a 57 year old! Pretty amazing.

    Loved the article, Peter. Thanks.

  • Mike Honcho

    Good interview with him today on Grant and Danny, (106.7). I was actually wondering if he would ever consider coaching.

  • J-in-PA

    I vote Head Coach Sasha Pokulok.

  • Pat

    On a non-ex-capital note… What about Laviollette?

  • LauraM

    what about Coach Bondra?!

  • Catherine__M

    Sorry I’m not old as dirt enough to have been here from the The Beginning. I’ll be sure to direct my fandom elsewhere from here out on so you can continue to pride yourself on being one of only a very select special important few who enjoy supporting your personal team that belongs to you and always has and always will. Just remember your kids are bandwagoners too :)

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  • Axel

    I vote Torts! Risky but could be exactly what we need.

  • Sonia

    You had me at Coach Matt Bradley.

  • Andrew

    I totally was joking, lol. That was my first post ever on RMNB and spend most of my time on SBN sites. I think WaPo commenters are only THIS much better than YouTubers. I will commit seppuku now.

  • OVECHKING

    Ian Oland RMNB Peter Hassett • a day ago

    I think Oates will stay. I think GMGM will be gone. I think all of the assistants minus maybe Kolzig will be gone.

    What I think should happen? GMGM should stay (*GASP*) and the entire coaching staff should be fired.
    ——
    Here it is ian. Im not going to repost it to prove my point. There is no need to. I’d rather these guys who think they have to “defend” you honour get angry and call me a liar.

  • mvp099

    “What former Caps player do you want to see behind the bench? Please don’t name anyone with NHL coaching experience; that’d be stupid.” – this is the best line.

  • Chip

    yes.

  • Chip

    Well, it worked for Roy this season haha

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  • james1968

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