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	<title>Russian Machine Never Breaks &#187; Howie Rose</title>
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		<title>Islanders Announcer Calls Neil Greenberg a Housebound Agraphobe, And That&#8217;s Not Even a Word</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Editor&#8217;s note: Neil Greenberg is not currently affiliated with RMNB and was not consulted for this article. During Saturday&#8217;s game between the New York Islanders and the Carolina Hurricanes, play-by-play announcer Howie Rose criticized Neil Greenberg&#8217;s list of the top 25 players under 25 for ESPN.com (paywall, but it&#8217;s worth it). That list does not include [...]]]></description>
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<p><em><strong>Editor&#8217;s note</strong>: Neil Greenberg is not currently affiliated with RMNB and was not consulted for this article.</em></p>
<p>During Saturday&#8217;s game between the New York Islanders and the Carolina Hurricanes, play-by-play announcer Howie Rose criticized <a class="vt-p" href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nhl/story?id=7449962&amp;_slug_=nhl-top-25-players-25-years-old-jonathan-toews-edges-sidney-crosby&amp;action=login&amp;appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnhl%2fstory%3fid%3d7449962%26_slug_%3dnhl-top-25-players-25-years-old-jonathan-toews-edges-sidney-crosby" target="_blank">Neil Greenberg&#8217;s list of the top 25 players under 25 for ESPN.com</a> (paywall, but it&#8217;s worth it). That list does not include NYI&#8217;s <strong>John Tavares</strong>, who has a team-best 46 points in his third year in the NHL.</p>
<p><a class="vt-p" href="http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2012/01/video-howie-rose-trolls-neil-greenberg-for-not-including-john-tavares-in-top-25-list/" target="_blank">During the discussion</a>, Rose calls Neil a &#8220;housebound agraphobe.&#8221; We can assume he means <em>agoraphobe</em>, since <em>agraphobe</em> is a made-up word that would mean &#8220;fear of farmland&#8221; or something. Rose runs standard operating procedure for character assassination of a blogger. Four-time Stanley Cup winner <strong>Butch Goring</strong> joins the routine and accuses Neil of being a provocateur. It&#8217;s a comprehensive <em>ad hominem</em> screed, except that they do not mention Neil by name at any point during the two-minute, telecast-padding exercise:</p>
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<blockquote><p><strong>Howie Rose</strong>: I don&#8217;t know if you happened to see an article that was in a national online publication recently, but someone actually wrote that &#8212; there&#8217;s a list of 25 players among those under 25 in the National Hockey League. . . Can you believe that John Tavares was not on that list? Are you kidding me?</p>
<p>Now, think about that. We&#8217;re just talking about players <em>under 25</em> and when [Neil Greenberg] was criticized for that he then came up with some kind of goofball numerical response. I don&#8217;t know who this housebound agraphobe [sic] is. I suggest he opens his shades &#8212; get a little light in there &#8212; and then watch the game and stop playing around with computers.</p>
<p>Open your eyes! You could make the case that John Tavares is among the best 25 players in the league. Period. Nevermind under 25 years of age. That&#8217;s just dumb.</p>
<p><strong>Butch Goring:</strong> Well, I suggest the guy cover another sport because clearly he has no idea what this sport&#8217;s all about.</p>
<p><strong>Howie Rose:</strong> I mean, that&#8217;s just stupid. There&#8217;s no other way to put it unless there&#8217;s some kind of personal agenda.</p>
<p><strong>Butch Goring:</strong> Unless he just wants to be controversial.</p>
<p><strong>Howie Rose</strong>: That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m not mentioning his name because I&#8217;m not going to give him that benefit. [awkward cross-talk]. . . As I said, open the window, get a little air, open the shades, get a little light.</p>
<p><strong>Butch Goring: </strong>John Tavares is only very, very close to being in the top 10 in the scoring race, so top 25 doesn&#8217;t make any sense to me.</p></blockquote>
<p>One other thing Rose doesn&#8217;t mention is <a class="vt-p" href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nhl/story?id=7470595&amp;_slug_=why-new-york-islanders-c-john-tavares-make-top-25-25-list&amp;action=login&amp;appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnhl%2fstory%3fid%3d7470595%26_slug_%3dwhy-new-york-islanders-c-john-tavares-make-top-25-25-list" target="_blank">Neil&#8217;s actual, stated reasons for leaving Tavares off the list</a>, which basically comes down to crummy possession statistics and good teammates.</p>
<p>Obviously, <a class="vt-p" href="https://twitter.com/#!/ngreenberg" target="_blank">Neil Greenberg</a> was a RMNB team member for a few years before graduating to <a class="vt-p" href="www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/capitals/scoring-chances/index.html" target="_blank">The Washington Post</a> and <a class="vt-p" href="http://search.espn.go.com/neil-greenberg/" target="_blank">ESPN Insider</a>. His tweets and columns for WaPo&#8217;s Capitals Insider often stir up controversy because they tell us things we don&#8217;t want to hear about our team. But Neil&#8217;s projections are accurate, his analysis is sharp, and his intentions are honest. Like everyone else, he&#8217;s a fan&#8211; but that doesn&#8217;t preclude him from providing objective assessment. And not everyone likes objective assessment.</p>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t know if John Tavares should&#8217;ve been on the list or not, but I trust Neil and his work. And I&#8217;d urge the NYI broadcast team not to get into a battle of words with our friends, &#8217;cause we run a blog that is basically the Dol Goldur of irrational and misplaced rage.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s not too late to bury the hatchet anyway; Rose and Greenberg are both Mets fans. I&#8217;m picturing a reconciliation intermission segment during the next Isles game.</p>
<p>By the way, the New York Islanders won the game 2-1 in overtime. Both NYI goals came from Tavares. Heh.</p>
<p><em>Additional reporting by Ian Oland. H/T <a class="vt-p" href="http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2012/01/video-howie-rose-trolls-neil-greenberg-for-not-including-john-tavares-in-top-25-list/" target="_blank">Islanders Point Blank</a>.</em></p>
 
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