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		<title>Old Man Knuble</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Neil Greenberg</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Photo credit: Chris Gordon A 24-year-old Mike Knuble, then a promising forward prospect, played nine games for the Detroit Red Wings during the 1996-97 season. Players who were still playing during Knuble&#8217;s first season in the NHL include Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemieux, Patrick Roy, Dominik Hasek, Steve Yzerman, Brett Hull, Mark Messier, Dino Ciccarelli, Brian [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/mike-knuble1.jpg"><img src="http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/mike-knuble1.jpg" alt="Mike Knuble" title="Mike Knuble" width="607" style="border: solid 1px #000" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-22373" /></a></p>
<p><em>Photo credit: Chris Gordon</em></p>
<p>A 24-year-old Mike Knuble, then a promising forward prospect, played nine games for the Detroit Red Wings during the 1996-97 season.</p>
<p>Players who were still playing during Knuble&#8217;s first season in the NHL include Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemieux, Patrick Roy, Dominik Hasek, Steve Yzerman, Brett Hull, Mark Messier, Dino Ciccarelli, Brian Leetch, Grant Fuhr, and Ron Hextall.</p>
<p>Just days after Knuble&#8217;s first game, Phil Collins announced that he was leaving Genesis to focus on his solo career, M.C. Hammer wasn&#8217;t yet bankrupt, and it would be months before The Daily Show debuts on Comedy Central.</p>
<p>I guess what I am trying to say is Knuble is <del>old</del> getting up there in years, but don&#8217;t tell him that.</p>
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<p>“I&#8217;m out there playing for another deal,” <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capitals-insider/post/capitals-mike-knuble-im-out-there-playing-for-another-deal/2011/08/30/gIQAc9atpJ_blog.html">he said</a>. “I&#8217;m not riding off into the sunset. I want to make that point clear to everybody. This is no farewell song.”</p>
<p>I agree with him, but it is one of the last tracks on <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Greatest-Hits-Ramones/dp/B000EXZI0A">a darn good Greatest Hits album</a>.</p>
<p>Players like Knuble who are productive over the age of 35 tend to keep their production rates in the league relatively stable as they age. Knuble was also a late bloomer: He had averaged eight goals per season his first three years and has almost tripled that production in his last three.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Knuble.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-22336" title="Knuble" src="http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Knuble.jpg" alt="" width="398" height="240" /></a></p>
<p>Using wingers who played at 39 years old post-lockout, we can make an educated guess on Knuble&#8217;s production for 2011-12. I will caution you that the entire player pool from which to draw from is limited, containing only Bill Guerin, Brendan Shanahan, Mark Recchi, and Teemu Selanne.</p>
<p>Using these players as a guide, we can speculate that Knuble will play 75 games, score 34 points (21 G and 13A) while taking 188 shots on goal.</p>
<p>Here are some probabilities for goals and point scored:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Knuble-probs.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-22341" title="Knuble probs" src="http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Knuble-probs.jpg" alt="" width="362" height="309" /></a></p>
<p>“It&#8217;s going to be a challenging year, definitely, with more competition,&#8221; cautioned Knuble. &#8220;Nothing is guaranteed.&#8221;</p>
<p>We couldn&#8217;t agree more.</p>
 
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		<title>Mike Knuble And Fine Wine: Both Better With Age?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 04:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Neil Greenberg</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s no secret that Mike Knuble is a fan favorite not only among Capital fans, but around the NHL in general. He&#8217;s a hard-working winger who lurks in front of the net, regularly crashes the crease and &#38; capitalizes on rebounds in front of the net. This garbageman-mentality helped him score goals at a higher [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/mike-knuble.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-7032" style="border: solid 1px #00204d" title="Will Mike Knuble have a career year at 38?" src="http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/mike-knuble.jpg" alt="Will Mike Knuble have a career year at 38?" width="607" /></a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s no secret that <strong>Mike Knuble</strong> is a fan favorite not only among Capital fans, but around the NHL in general. He&#8217;s a hard-working winger who lurks in front of the net, regularly crashes the crease and &amp; capitalizes on rebounds in front of the net.   This <a href="http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/mike-knuble-wins-gordie-against-pens.jpg">garbageman-mentality</a> helped him <a href="http://www.japersrink.com/2010/5/20/1477685/2009-10-rink-wrap-mike-knuble" target="_blank">score goals at a higher rate in 2009-10 (.42 per game) than in any other season in his career</a>. And he did it all at the ripe age of 37.</p>
<p>But we here at RMNB are worried.  Should Mike Knuble&#8217;s age cause us to temper our expectations in 2010-11?</p>
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<p>The boxcar stats on Knuble were impressive last season: 69 games played,   29G/24A/53Pts  +23. Other <a href="http://www.hockey-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&amp;match=single&amp;year_min=&amp;year_max=&amp;season_start=1&amp;season_end=-1&amp;age_min=38&amp;age_max=99&amp;birth_country=&amp;franch_id=&amp;is_active=&amp;is_hof=&amp;pos=W&amp;handed=&amp;c1stat=games_played&amp;c1comp=gt&amp;c1val=40&amp;c2stat=points_per_game&amp;c2comp=gt&amp;c2val=.5&amp;c3stat=&amp;c3comp=gt&amp;c3val=&amp;c4stat=&amp;c4comp=lt&amp;c4val=&amp;order_by=games_played" target="_blank">wingers who played 40 games or more while producing at least .5 Points Per Game after age 38</a>, which is where we should expect Knuble to be if he continues playing on the Caps&#8217; top line with Ovechkin and Backstrom, include:</p>
<ol>
<li>Brendan Shanahan</li>
<li>Brett Hull</li>
<li>Dean Prentice</li>
<li>Gordie Howe</li>
<li>John Bucyk</li>
<li>Mark Messier</li>
<li>Mark Recchi</li>
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<p>We can see on the chart this group&#8217;s production holds relatively stable through ages 39-40 before the sample size becomes increasingly small.</p>
<div id="attachment_7271" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 574px"><a href="http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/AgeChart.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-7271" title="Games Played and Points Per Game Ages 37-43" src="http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/AgeChart.jpg" alt="Games Played and Points Per Game Ages 37-43" width="564" height="418" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Games Played and Points Per Game Ages 37-43</p></div>
<p>This allows us to project Knuble&#8217;s production to fall somewhere between 43 &#8211; 48 points this year. Not terrible for an old man, but is it enough to sustain him on the top line with Alexander Ovechkin and Nicklas Backstrom?</p>
 
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